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Weight Loss

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My 12 year old was recently diagnosed with ADD.  She takes 15 mg. of ritalin, 2x a day.  We have seen modest improvements in her ability to focus but nothing dramatic.  I would love to increase her dosage to see if there is greater affect but (a) the MD thinks that she’s at the top of her range already (75 lbs.); (b) she already is experiencing weight loss– 4 pounds in 3 weeks.  She has very low body fat % (tested at school) — about as low as she could get and still be "healthy.  (She’s a gymnast so she’s almost all muscle, very little body fat).  (a) Is the fact that she is losing weight a sign that the amount of medication that she receives is too high? (b) Do those who have this side effect lose weight initially, but then level off and stop losing weight? (c) Should we be looking at other medications, both for a more dramatic alleviating of her symptoms; and because of the weight loss? Thanks for the info! Sandy

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Hi- I started Ritalin when I was in 10th grade. I was also a gymnast – weighed 102 lbs. at 5′2. I am now 24 and weigh 85 lbs on a GOOD day. I have been tested for eating disorders by psychiatrists but I truly do not have any. You need to watch out for any appetite loss because my nutritionist says that even though I felt like I was not hungry (and therefore did not eat), my brain was sending me signals and since I ignored them for so long, my brain stopped sending them. Hence, I rarely feel hungry. I have to remind myself to eat now and drink Ensure. I am completely healthy – blood pressure, blood tests, all perfect – except my metabolism disallows me to gain weight no matter what I eat and it is truly frustrating. I just switched to Aderall so I will see what happens but I am sure that my appetite will remain obsolete. The medications were/are very helpful to me and I am not saying not to keep using them but keep an eye on appetite/weight loss before it can become a real problem. Good Luck Wendy

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Hi- I started Ritalin when I was in 10th grade. I was also a gymnast – weighed 102 lbs. at 5′2. I am now 24 and weigh 85 lbs on a GOOD day. I have been tested for eating disorders by psychiatrists but I truly do not have any.

[snip] I am completely healthy – blood pressure, blood tests, all perfect – except my metabolism disallows me to gain weight no matter what I eat and it is truly frustrating.

[snip] A question.  Does anyone have referencies to studies that identify this sort of "inactive metabolism" in untreated ADD/ADHD population?   — Martin G. Diehl I am what I am.  All opinions expressed within are strictly my own.

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Wendy said: <snipexcept my metabolism disallows me to gain weight no matter what I eat and it is truly frustrating.

I *really* feel for you.  I too, have battled with keeping weight on my body. I have some known genetic goofs and slight abnormal thyroid function, but evidently not enough to treat the thyroid so far.  When your metabolism is out of wack and ‘in control’ it is a constant battle, no, a war with your own body just to keep it healthy, functioning and padded.  People, typically, won’t understand how distressing this can be and I just want you to know that I *do* understand and stress the importance of keep fighting.  Just when I gave up all hope, after 8 years at 100 pounds on a GOOD day, i began Doxepin therapy and gained 22 pounds in less than 4 months.  I have never weighed more that 112 in my entire life. I went from a size 2 to a size 6.  So this is a great accomplishment to say the least.  i have faith that your body will find it’s balance and physical stability will come your way! <snip I have been tested for eating disorders by psychiatrists but I truly do not have any.

Doesn’t that just break your heart.  I used to get so mad at my doctors!!! However, when I would look into the mirror, i would see what the doctors saw and have no choice but to understand their concern.  That is a tough judgement to have hanging over your head to say the very least!  I will keep you in my thought and hope the very best for you Wendy! (has anyone noticed that my spell checker broke?) – Amy ~~~~~~ It might look like I am doing nothing, however, at the cellular level I am really quite busy!

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Hi, I saw the post regarding your daughter. I hope she is leveling off in the weight loss. Would you like to hear an audio tape of how one child was able to get better using a natural substance? I ordered 60 of them to give away. My nephew has ADD and PDD. I am hoping the information on the tape will help him also. Sincerely, Rebecca

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Hi, I saw the post regarding your daughter. I hope she is leveling off in the weight loss. Would you like to hear an audio tape of how one child was able to get better using a natural substance? I ordered 60 of them to give away. My nephew has ADD and PDD. I am hoping the information on the tape will help him also. Sincerely, Rebecca

Please cite a research source to support your claim that a "natural substance" helps either ADD or PDD — Martin G. Diehl I am what I am.  All opinions expressed within are strictly my own.

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Hi, I saw the post regarding your daughter. I hope she is leveling off in the weight loss. Would you like to hear an audio tape of how one child was able to get better using a natural substance? I ordered 60 of them to give away. My nephew has ADD and PDD. I am hoping the information on the tape will help him also. Sincerely, Rebecca

Why do you keep on trying to sell your ‘natural substance’ in here???? Keep your tapes and stop picking on vulnerable people who are seriously looking for some answers and may not know what you’re all about.  This is not the place to sell your diet garbage.  Don’t be so cowardly so as to pretend your not selling a ‘cure’ for ADD. If you have any decency at all (I’m pretty skeptical) post the name of your ‘natural supplement’, and tell us what’s in it.  Include any ‘proof’ if you want, because there are a few of us who would love to see what it is.  I promise, we’ll look at it completely objectively – but if it’s funny, we will laugh, hard. You should’ve read the NG a bit before you started trying to pander things in it.  ADD people are often *very* intelligent (read see through scams) and extremely resourceful (read do the legwork to debunk bogus claims).  Oh well, you’re here now, aren’t you.   :-) *star* made in canada stars shine at hotmail dot com

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Our 11 year old son has been on medication for 4 years now. First on Ritalin and now on Aderall. We have always played the catch-up game of keeping weight on him. During the school year he is on the medications and won’t eat a thing, and then off the medication during the summer and fatten him up. What a life! We did  learn that Aderall was originally a weight lose drug. Figure! We have been dealing with this problem and the results that we have determined that the bad outweigh the good. We will be taking our son off the medication permanantly and starting next year, homeschool him. We just can’t see him like a skeleton anymore. Good luck with the problem. Rick – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My 12 year old was recently diagnosed with ADD.  She takes 15 mg. of ritalin, 2x a day.  We have seen modest improvements in her ability to focus but nothing dramatic.  I would love to increase her dosage to see if there is greater affect but (a) the MD thinks that she’s at the top of her range already (75 lbs.); (b) she already is experiencing weight loss– 4 pounds in 3 weeks.  She has very low body fat % (tested at school) — about as low as she could get and still be "healthy.  (She’s a gymnast so she’s almost all muscle, very little body fat).  (a) Is the fact that she is losing weight a sign that the amount of medication that she receives is too high? (b) Do those who have this side effect lose weight initially, but then level off and stop losing weight? (c) Should we be looking at other medications, both for a more dramatic alleviating of her symptoms; and because of the weight loss? Thanks for the info! Sandy

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Our 11 year old son has been on medication for 4 years now. First on Ritalin and now on Aderall. We have always played the catch-up game of keeping weight on him. During the school year he is on the medications and won’t eat a thing, and then off the medication during the summer and fatten him up. What a life! We did learn that Aderall was originally a weight lose drug. Figure! We have been dealing with this problem and the results that we have determined that the bad outweigh the good. We will be taking our son off the medication permanantly and starting next year, homeschool him. We just can’t see him like a skeleton anymore. Good luck with the problem.

My son, 8 yo, diagnosed ADHD in October ‘98, is also very skinny. However, since starting Ritalin in late October, he has not really lost any weight, but has grown several inches. In his case, Ritalin has not cause loss of appetite. In fact, his appetite which always was minimal, has increased!!! What I wanted to say, is that it is very common amongh ADHDers to not have much appetite. On top of it, some of them seem to have a very fast metabolism which means that they burn calories faster than they take them in. That is the case with my ADHD, now 41 yo brother: he looks like a skeleton, but is not medicated!!! And he eats, lots, but simply burns it off!!! Then, OTOH, there are ADDers like me who have a slow metabolism and big appetite…. — Danielle, Maman to Marc-Andre – May 22, 1991 and Genevieve – Dec. 18, 1995 and weaned????:< Writing from Canada Parent-L Birth secretary Visit my new web-page, view new pics of the kids, and, please, sign my guest-book!! http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/home.html My ICQ # is 6463692 Canadian Special Education Chat Room – http://members.tripod.com/~dchenier/canspec.html &canspec ICQ # 33710657

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<SNIP  On top of it, some of them seem to have a very fast metabolism which means that they burn calories faster than they take them in. That is the case with my ADHD, now 41 yo brother: he looks like a skeleton, but is not medicated!!! And he eats, lots, but simply burns it off!!!

Wasn’t there a study recently that said something about some people who "fidget a lot" naturally burn off more calories?  And who is this group that seems to fidget a lot? Things that make you go, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Buny

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Wasn’t there a study recently that said something about some people who "fidget a lot" naturally burn off more calories?  And who is this group that seems to fidget a lot?

Queen Fidget here.  And yes, there was a study that said some fidgetters burn off up to 800 calories a day…they must be positively twitching!  I bump my leg up and down constantly, swing my foot, shift in my seat, and generally squirm, especially when I’m bored.  Drives Fred crazy sometimes. — Ann Illegitimi non Carborundum annbal*at*thecia*dot*net

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Tegretol vs. Depakote

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I think the weight gain comes with all these drugs, because the mania is being controlled and we are not running are motors so fast on the inside.  That’s what my doctor told me. Sarah

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I think the weight gain comes with all these drugs, because the mania is being controlled and we are not running are motors so fast on the inside.  That’s what my doctor told me.

Not true, I’ve lost 40 pounds since my pdoc substituted Lamictal for Lithium. I am less lethargic, no longer suffer from mental confusion and I DON’T MISS Lithium one bit. Depakote also caused weight gain. While it’s true that I lose lots of weight when I’m manic, due to the running you refer too, it was never enough to compensate for all the weight I had gained, like 60 pounds in 5 years! Stumbling through the darkness, in search of the light….Desiree’

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I think the weight gain comes with all these drugs, because the mania is being controlled and we are not running are motors so fast on the inside.  That’s what my doctor told me.

Hi Sarah, Since we all may vary in our reponse to meds, IMHO unless one has an abnormal thyroid level (hypothyroidism), my guess is that it may have something to do with serotonin levels in the brain which can cause an increase in one’s appetite for carbohydrates. Whew…that was a long sentence. For me, I did not gain weight while taking Depakote or any of the many ADs. However, I also exercisesd daily as I do now (except for this flare of my MS). Now I am taking neurontin, and losing weight <sigh. The human body never ceases to amaze me. We are all so unique but yet share similarities. I know that I have suggested this before but here goes: to those who are gaining weight and notice your appetite increasing because of a change in meds or dose, please consider daily physical activity. It doesn’t have to be anything strenuous..in fact since the goal is weight loss, one needs to work within an effective heart rate which will enhance fat metabolism not carbohydrates. A good range is 70 – 80% of your target heart rate. Take 220 and subtract your age. Now take 60% and then 80% of that figure and you have a safe heart rate range where you will be exercising aerobically not anaerobically. For example: I am 51 years  young :) so: 220 minus 51 = 169 = maximum heart rate (MHR) 169 X .70 = 118 beats per minute (bpm) 169 X .80 = (135.8) 139 bpm the range is then 118 – 139 bpm. One can start lower at 60% and increase to 85% of the maximum hear rate. But going higher than 85% will result in burning more carbohydrates than fat. Okay, I’ll shut up now. Goodnight! Peace, — Reach beyond your grasp!

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What are the advantages of Tegretol over Depakote?  Pdoc thinking of switching from Depakote to Tegretol and Lithium but girlfriend does not want to be on Lithium.

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Depakote will cause many side effects including  dizzyness, shaking so bad you cant even sign your name and mania.  I was on it for over 2 yrs and had lots of problems.  With a high dose of 2500mg a day it still didnt even show up in my blood tests.  I was switched to lithium and in the first 2 months I lost 15 lbs.  Which Depakote makes you gain LOTS.  I have had no problems with the lithium and plan to make it a permanent addition to my many meds.

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Depakote will cause many side effects including  dizzyness, shaking so bad you cant even sign your name and mania.

Main side effects my girlfriend is experiencing is the shaking and tiredness.  It controls the mania somewhat but she seems more depressed on Depakote than before.  Also experience big weight gain and hair loss. problems.  With a high dose of 2500mg a day it still didnt even show up in my blood tests.

Same where.  Very low levels. I was switched to lithium and in the first 2 months I lost 15 lbs.  Which Depakote makes you gain LOTS.  I have had no problems with the lithium and plan to make it a permanent addition to my many meds.

Glad Lithium is working for you.  I’m thinking of getting her pdoc to prescribe Neurontin.

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Depakote will cause many side effects including  dizzyness, shaking so bad you cant even sign your name and mania.  I was on it for over 2 yrs and had lots of problems.  With a high dose of 2500mg a day it still didnt even show up in my blood tests.  I was switched to lithium and in the first 2 months I lost 15 lbs.  Which Depakote makes you gain LOTS.  I have had no problems with the lithium and plan to make it a permanent addition to my many meds.

Depakote MAY cause many side effects.  Mania isn’t one of them.  If you were manic while on depakote, it’s because you weren’t at therapeutic levels. i.e., "it still didnt even show up in my blood tests".   As to the other side-effects you mention, I certainly don’t suffer dizziness or shaking (I did have the latter for about 3 days when it was new to me), so it’s not a case of the meds WILL cause certain side-effects, it’s MAY . . . always MAY. . . . Many people (it seems most) suffer weight gain on Depakote;  I believe the same can be said of lithium.  You’re lucky that the Li doesn’t have that effect for you, but as you’ll find with most drugs discussed here, side-effects and results vary hugely from person to person. Regards, Kath

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Another trip to the Doctor – an update

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Teri, The next thing your doc may do is called a glucose tolerance test.  After fasting, they give you a really sugary drink and then take blood and urine every hour for a few hours.  This will tell you if you are truly hypoglycemic or this was some wierd fluke. Do you ever get sweaty, dizzy, nauseous for no reason and then after eating something, feel better?  The same goes for migraines.  You might want to keep a diary to see what you’ve eaten before any of these symptoms occur.  I have a friend who can’t eat bananas because her sugar drops.  Your body simply overcompensates with a little too much insulin. Good luck Dawn

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Guess I should be a little concerned then…. all I had before the test was decaf coffee with cream and sweetener.  That was since around 9pm the night before Anyone else have any comments to keep me from getting reallllly worried??? Teri

The coffee would probably throw the test off some.. Karen — You Are Not Alone http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/7379/karen.html

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Guess I should be a little concerned then…. all I had before the test was decaf coffee with cream and sweetener.  That was since around 9pm the night before Anyone else have any comments to keep me from getting reallllly worried??? Teri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I believe a reading of sixty or so is in the normal range for blood surgar.  I’m not positive though.  I’m sure someone in the ng will know. I just looked it up in my computer’s medical advisor program.  There are three different types of tests and three different levels of normal: Fasting Glucose (fasting for 10-12 hours before test): 70-110 2-hr. Postprandal (test taken two hours after eating): 120-150 Random Blood Sugar (taken anytime, no restrictions): 110-200 — Vicky

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Well I still have my headaches.  Had my regular appt today.  He is running a thyroid test, and as he put it kind of hopes it will come back abnormal as that will help explain why the medicines aren’t working. Increased my neutronin to 300 mg a day for a week then increasing to 600 mg a day for another week, then 900 per day.  Said it can be increased up to 2700 if necessary. Also had a blood glucose test run… it was low … 44/  Does anyone know just how low this is?  What is normal?  Here I was worried about diabetes which runs rampant in my family… Also gave me maxalt….has anyone had any good/bad experiences with this new abortive? Teri Thanks for anyones feedback

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Yup.  Low blood sugar can cause headaches.  Maybe if your able to get your glucose level under control…  Anyway, I’ll keep my fingers crossed — maybe you don’t need an abnormal thyroid result afterall. BTW, after diagnosing hypoglycemia for me, my doctor told me that besides avoiding sugar, I also had to avoid caffeine.  I’ve also found that artificial sweetener triggers my headaches.  I hope this helps. — Vicky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Guess I should be a little concerned then…. all I had before the test was decaf coffee with cream and sweetener.  That was since around 9pm the night before Anyone else have any comments to keep me from getting reallllly worried??? Teri I believe a reading of sixty or so is in the normal range for blood surgar.  I’m not positive though.  I’m sure someone in the ng will know. I just looked it up in my computer’s medical advisor program.  There are three different types of tests and three different levels of normal: Fasting Glucose (fasting for 10-12 hours before test): 70-110 2-hr. Postprandal (test taken two hours after eating): 120-150 Random Blood Sugar (taken anytime, no restrictions): 110-200 — Vicky

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I believe a reading of sixty or so is in the normal range for blood surgar.  I’m not positive though.  I’m sure someone in the ng will know.

I just looked it up in my computer’s medical advisor program.  There are three different types of tests and three different levels of normal: Fasting Glucose (fasting for 10-12 hours before test): 70-110 2-hr. Postprandal (test taken two hours after eating): 120-150 Random Blood Sugar (taken anytime, no restrictions): 110-200 — Vicky

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Teri I believe a reading of sixty or so is in the normal range for blood surgar.  I’m not positive though.  I’m sure someone in the ng will know. The only reason I have any inkling of what the range might be is because when I was operated on for an ulcer they had me on an IV nutrient suppliment for about a week.  The only problem with it was is that it played havoc with the patients blood sugar levels even without a history of diabetes.  It was so nice to have a finger pricked for a blood sample to check sugar levels around the clock.

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Cat drinks water from tap obsessively

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Excessive thirst, weight loss despite good eating, are also signs of diabetes.  You might want to have your cat’s blood glucose levels checked as well.

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1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. Is she given access to food anytime she wants, or only on your schedule? This sounds like a ‘learned’ habit of gorging on food because there isn’t going to be any around or she has to fight off ‘the others’ (even if she’s the only cat). If you are patient, you can give her a little bit of the wet cat food at a time.  Pet her, talk with her, etc.  Leave plenty of dry cat food out for her to eat when she gets hungry.  She will ‘learn’ that food is always available to her and she doesn’t need to gorge herself.  Well, hopefully.

This seems like a plausible explaination.  When I got my first cat, she was just a kitten from a ferral cat we found.  Needless to say, she was quite afraid of us at first, but she got over that within a week.  When she was calmed down an I was satisfied she was eating the dried food, I tried some wet stuff.  Sacred Heart of Mary, she flew into a fit.  You couldn’t go near her or it was a full scale attack on your hand.  She ate it at an alarming rate, gorging herself.  But I kept feeding her it and trying to stay near, showing her I wasn’t going to take it. And now, two years later, you could hook a mouthul out of her mouth while she’s eating with no problem (not that I do).  Anyway, she we got another cat when she was a year old, and when I give them their wet food treat (there is always dry food out, I give them a can of wet stuff maybe once a week) they both eat off the same plate, and there was never one incident. You may try leaving food out all the time, to show her that it is always there, although I have heard that they can gain weight that way.  I guess it is dependent on each cat, as both of mine seem to be at an acceptable weight for their situation (indoor cats, spayed, food always out).  The older one is 9 pounds and the younger, 7. — Paul Traverse Memorial University Of Newfoundland Computer Science Department http://home.thezone.net/~traverse

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Some cats simply enjoy making you get up to turn the tap ON. Mr Boot E will, if no one pays attention to him lurking around the sink, carefully remove the push-down stopper (no mean feat for someone with paws) and drag it out of the bathroom. When he is feeling lazy, he simply knocks my collection of blue glass doodads onto the floor. Ms Pinky is NEVER thirsty until I sit down on the can. Then she becomes insanely affectionate and runs from the tub to the toilet (about eight feet away) until I turn the water on. If the water is already running, I have to turn it off and show her that I am turning it on. This has NOTHING to do with her sight or the quality of water dishes–we use both glass and metal, and pure spring water. It has nothing to do with the quality of the water either. Mr Boot E will drink from an open toilet which hasn’t been flushed. My cats are simply spoiled. No one to blame but myself… DL

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Your cat may be drinking from the faucets because there is a problem with her eyes.  Some cats have vision problems, they cannot judge the water level distance.  They can’t figure out how far away their tongues are to the waters surface.  Try replacing her water dish with a clear glass dish see if that helps.

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One possibility:  does the cat have a plastic water dish?  I read in a brochure at the vet’s office that some cats are allergic to plastic, which keeps them from drinking water in plastic dishes.  I bought our kitties a ceramic dish, and they stopped begging at the sink.  I don’t know if this is true for food dishes, too, but I’ve not had any trouble.

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I am no expert, but these symptoms sound like what my cat went through with hyperthyroidism.  Weight loss, eating and drinking a lot and hyperactivity are common symptoms.  My cat went throught these changes slowly and he never did get to a dangerously low weight, but he was eating and drinking ravenously.  Right before he finally got treatment he was up to 3 small cans/day and was around 10 pounds instead of his usual 12 1/2-13.  You might want to talk to your vet about the possibility.  Also, the thyroid tests are not always accurate.  In the case of my cat the blood tests turned up normal, and the T-3 Suppression test (I think that’s what it’s called) only showed a slightly abnormal thyroid.  Finally a thyroid scan confirmed it.  Your kitty’s thyroid may not be the cause, but it’s something you might ask your vet about. Shelly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting… Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty? should we think about kitty prozac? anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight. — J.T. Robicheau "One of the most exhilarating experiences is being shot at without result." Winston Churchill

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Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight.

Some cats’ weight will vary greatly depending on the season.  One cat I grew up with was outdoors a lot and would gain several pounds for the winter and promptly lose them all (and the fur!) for spring.  This is speculation in your case, but maybe a possibility. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit.

Is she given access to food anytime she wants, or only on your schedule? This sounds like a ‘learned’ habit of gorging on food because there isn’t going to be any around or she has to fight off ‘the others’ (even if she’s the only cat). If you are patient, you can give her a little bit of the wet cat food at a time.  Pet her, talk with her, etc.  Leave plenty of dry cat food out for her to eat when she gets hungry.  She will ‘learn’ that food is always available to her and she doesn’t need to gorge herself.  Well, hopefully. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting…

My kittens demand water from the tap whenever I walk towards the bathroom. I will sometimes give them some, but won’t let it run continuously. You will have to monitor how much seems reasonable to you and stop the water. That’s not cruel since she should have plenty of access to fresh water of her own whenever she wants, right? Often I will have to pick up the kittens and place them on the floor outside of the bathroom to let them know that there’s no more treats for them right now.  They understand, sort of.  Well, they are kittens. Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty?

That’s almost a definition of a cat. should we think about kitty prozac?

Not unless your vet recommends it first.  I would be very hesitant to give any medicine of any kind to a cat unless the vet said it was necessary. anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom

Sounds familiar, except mine sleep in my room.  But when I go towards the bathroom, they will jump on the toilet seat cover and the bathroom sink. They’ve learned that "pose" of a tall cat statue with the tail wrapped around their feet.  Quite cute. cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight.

This is the most important sign that she’s fine. —

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Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting… Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty? should we think about kitty prozac? anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight. — J.T. Robicheau "One of the most exhilarating experiences is being shot at without result." Winston Churchill

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Excessive thirst, weight loss despite good eating, are also signs of diabetes.  You might want to have your cat’s blood glucose levels checked as well.

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1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. Is she given access to food anytime she wants, or only on your schedule? This sounds like a ‘learned’ habit of gorging on food because there isn’t going to be any around or she has to fight off ‘the others’ (even if she’s the only cat). If you are patient, you can give her a little bit of the wet cat food at a time.  Pet her, talk with her, etc.  Leave plenty of dry cat food out for her to eat when she gets hungry.  She will ‘learn’ that food is always available to her and she doesn’t need to gorge herself.  Well, hopefully.

This seems like a plausible explaination.  When I got my first cat, she was just a kitten from a ferral cat we found.  Needless to say, she was quite afraid of us at first, but she got over that within a week.  When she was calmed down an I was satisfied she was eating the dried food, I tried some wet stuff.  Sacred Heart of Mary, she flew into a fit.  You couldn’t go near her or it was a full scale attack on your hand.  She ate it at an alarming rate, gorging herself.  But I kept feeding her it and trying to stay near, showing her I wasn’t going to take it. And now, two years later, you could hook a mouthul out of her mouth while she’s eating with no problem (not that I do).  Anyway, she we got another cat when she was a year old, and when I give them their wet food treat (there is always dry food out, I give them a can of wet stuff maybe once a week) they both eat off the same plate, and there was never one incident. You may try leaving food out all the time, to show her that it is always there, although I have heard that they can gain weight that way.  I guess it is dependent on each cat, as both of mine seem to be at an acceptable weight for their situation (indoor cats, spayed, food always out).  The older one is 9 pounds and the younger, 7. — Paul Traverse Memorial University Of Newfoundland Computer Science Department http://home.thezone.net/~traverse

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Some cats simply enjoy making you get up to turn the tap ON. Mr Boot E will, if no one pays attention to him lurking around the sink, carefully remove the push-down stopper (no mean feat for someone with paws) and drag it out of the bathroom. When he is feeling lazy, he simply knocks my collection of blue glass doodads onto the floor. Ms Pinky is NEVER thirsty until I sit down on the can. Then she becomes insanely affectionate and runs from the tub to the toilet (about eight feet away) until I turn the water on. If the water is already running, I have to turn it off and show her that I am turning it on. This has NOTHING to do with her sight or the quality of water dishes–we use both glass and metal, and pure spring water. It has nothing to do with the quality of the water either. Mr Boot E will drink from an open toilet which hasn’t been flushed. My cats are simply spoiled. No one to blame but myself… DL

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Your cat may be drinking from the faucets because there is a problem with her eyes.  Some cats have vision problems, they cannot judge the water level distance.  They can’t figure out how far away their tongues are to the waters surface.  Try replacing her water dish with a clear glass dish see if that helps.

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One possibility:  does the cat have a plastic water dish?  I read in a brochure at the vet’s office that some cats are allergic to plastic, which keeps them from drinking water in plastic dishes.  I bought our kitties a ceramic dish, and they stopped begging at the sink.  I don’t know if this is true for food dishes, too, but I’ve not had any trouble.

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I am no expert, but these symptoms sound like what my cat went through with hyperthyroidism.  Weight loss, eating and drinking a lot and hyperactivity are common symptoms.  My cat went throught these changes slowly and he never did get to a dangerously low weight, but he was eating and drinking ravenously.  Right before he finally got treatment he was up to 3 small cans/day and was around 10 pounds instead of his usual 12 1/2-13.  You might want to talk to your vet about the possibility.  Also, the thyroid tests are not always accurate.  In the case of my cat the blood tests turned up normal, and the T-3 Suppression test (I think that’s what it’s called) only showed a slightly abnormal thyroid.  Finally a thyroid scan confirmed it.  Your kitty’s thyroid may not be the cause, but it’s something you might ask your vet about. Shelly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting… Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty? should we think about kitty prozac? anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight. — J.T. Robicheau "One of the most exhilarating experiences is being shot at without result." Winston Churchill

– http://www.cyberramp.net/~mbeeman

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Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight.

Some cats’ weight will vary greatly depending on the season.  One cat I grew up with was outdoors a lot and would gain several pounds for the winter and promptly lose them all (and the fur!) for spring.  This is speculation in your case, but maybe a possibility. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit.

Is she given access to food anytime she wants, or only on your schedule? This sounds like a ‘learned’ habit of gorging on food because there isn’t going to be any around or she has to fight off ‘the others’ (even if she’s the only cat). If you are patient, you can give her a little bit of the wet cat food at a time.  Pet her, talk with her, etc.  Leave plenty of dry cat food out for her to eat when she gets hungry.  She will ‘learn’ that food is always available to her and she doesn’t need to gorge herself.  Well, hopefully. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting…

My kittens demand water from the tap whenever I walk towards the bathroom. I will sometimes give them some, but won’t let it run continuously. You will have to monitor how much seems reasonable to you and stop the water. That’s not cruel since she should have plenty of access to fresh water of her own whenever she wants, right? Often I will have to pick up the kittens and place them on the floor outside of the bathroom to let them know that there’s no more treats for them right now.  They understand, sort of.  Well, they are kittens. Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty?

That’s almost a definition of a cat. should we think about kitty prozac?

Not unless your vet recommends it first.  I would be very hesitant to give any medicine of any kind to a cat unless the vet said it was necessary. anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom

Sounds familiar, except mine sleep in my room.  But when I go towards the bathroom, they will jump on the toilet seat cover and the bathroom sink. They’ve learned that "pose" of a tall cat statue with the tail wrapped around their feet.  Quite cute. cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight.

This is the most important sign that she’s fine. —

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Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting… Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty? should we think about kitty prozac? anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight. — J.T. Robicheau "One of the most exhilarating experiences is being shot at without result." Winston Churchill

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Excessive thirst, weight loss despite good eating, are also signs of diabetes.  You might want to have your cat’s blood glucose levels checked as well.

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1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. Is she given access to food anytime she wants, or only on your schedule? This sounds like a ‘learned’ habit of gorging on food because there isn’t going to be any around or she has to fight off ‘the others’ (even if she’s the only cat). If you are patient, you can give her a little bit of the wet cat food at a time.  Pet her, talk with her, etc.  Leave plenty of dry cat food out for her to eat when she gets hungry.  She will ‘learn’ that food is always available to her and she doesn’t need to gorge herself.  Well, hopefully.

This seems like a plausible explaination.  When I got my first cat, she was just a kitten from a ferral cat we found.  Needless to say, she was quite afraid of us at first, but she got over that within a week.  When she was calmed down an I was satisfied she was eating the dried food, I tried some wet stuff.  Sacred Heart of Mary, she flew into a fit.  You couldn’t go near her or it was a full scale attack on your hand.  She ate it at an alarming rate, gorging herself.  But I kept feeding her it and trying to stay near, showing her I wasn’t going to take it. And now, two years later, you could hook a mouthul out of her mouth while she’s eating with no problem (not that I do).  Anyway, she we got another cat when she was a year old, and when I give them their wet food treat (there is always dry food out, I give them a can of wet stuff maybe once a week) they both eat off the same plate, and there was never one incident. You may try leaving food out all the time, to show her that it is always there, although I have heard that they can gain weight that way.  I guess it is dependent on each cat, as both of mine seem to be at an acceptable weight for their situation (indoor cats, spayed, food always out).  The older one is 9 pounds and the younger, 7. — Paul Traverse Memorial University Of Newfoundland Computer Science Department http://home.thezone.net/~traverse

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Some cats simply enjoy making you get up to turn the tap ON. Mr Boot E will, if no one pays attention to him lurking around the sink, carefully remove the push-down stopper (no mean feat for someone with paws) and drag it out of the bathroom. When he is feeling lazy, he simply knocks my collection of blue glass doodads onto the floor. Ms Pinky is NEVER thirsty until I sit down on the can. Then she becomes insanely affectionate and runs from the tub to the toilet (about eight feet away) until I turn the water on. If the water is already running, I have to turn it off and show her that I am turning it on. This has NOTHING to do with her sight or the quality of water dishes–we use both glass and metal, and pure spring water. It has nothing to do with the quality of the water either. Mr Boot E will drink from an open toilet which hasn’t been flushed. My cats are simply spoiled. No one to blame but myself… DL

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Your cat may be drinking from the faucets because there is a problem with her eyes.  Some cats have vision problems, they cannot judge the water level distance.  They can’t figure out how far away their tongues are to the waters surface.  Try replacing her water dish with a clear glass dish see if that helps.

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One possibility:  does the cat have a plastic water dish?  I read in a brochure at the vet’s office that some cats are allergic to plastic, which keeps them from drinking water in plastic dishes.  I bought our kitties a ceramic dish, and they stopped begging at the sink.  I don’t know if this is true for food dishes, too, but I’ve not had any trouble.

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I am no expert, but these symptoms sound like what my cat went through with hyperthyroidism.  Weight loss, eating and drinking a lot and hyperactivity are common symptoms.  My cat went throught these changes slowly and he never did get to a dangerously low weight, but he was eating and drinking ravenously.  Right before he finally got treatment he was up to 3 small cans/day and was around 10 pounds instead of his usual 12 1/2-13.  You might want to talk to your vet about the possibility.  Also, the thyroid tests are not always accurate.  In the case of my cat the blood tests turned up normal, and the T-3 Suppression test (I think that’s what it’s called) only showed a slightly abnormal thyroid.  Finally a thyroid scan confirmed it.  Your kitty’s thyroid may not be the cause, but it’s something you might ask your vet about. Shelly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting… Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty? should we think about kitty prozac? anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight. — J.T. Robicheau "One of the most exhilarating experiences is being shot at without result." Winston Churchill

– http://www.cyberramp.net/~mbeeman

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Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight.

Some cats’ weight will vary greatly depending on the season.  One cat I grew up with was outdoors a lot and would gain several pounds for the winter and promptly lose them all (and the fur!) for spring.  This is speculation in your case, but maybe a possibility. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit.

Is she given access to food anytime she wants, or only on your schedule? This sounds like a ‘learned’ habit of gorging on food because there isn’t going to be any around or she has to fight off ‘the others’ (even if she’s the only cat). If you are patient, you can give her a little bit of the wet cat food at a time.  Pet her, talk with her, etc.  Leave plenty of dry cat food out for her to eat when she gets hungry.  She will ‘learn’ that food is always available to her and she doesn’t need to gorge herself.  Well, hopefully. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting…

My kittens demand water from the tap whenever I walk towards the bathroom. I will sometimes give them some, but won’t let it run continuously. You will have to monitor how much seems reasonable to you and stop the water. That’s not cruel since she should have plenty of access to fresh water of her own whenever she wants, right? Often I will have to pick up the kittens and place them on the floor outside of the bathroom to let them know that there’s no more treats for them right now.  They understand, sort of.  Well, they are kittens. Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty?

That’s almost a definition of a cat. should we think about kitty prozac?

Not unless your vet recommends it first.  I would be very hesitant to give any medicine of any kind to a cat unless the vet said it was necessary. anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom

Sounds familiar, except mine sleep in my room.  But when I go towards the bathroom, they will jump on the toilet seat cover and the bathroom sink. They’ve learned that "pose" of a tall cat statue with the tail wrapped around their feet.  Quite cute. cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight.

This is the most important sign that she’s fine. —

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Female cat, 6 years old, black domestic shorthair, was losing weight (13.5 lbs—- 10 lbs) got bony for awhile. I brought her to the vet and they did a blood chemistry, which was normal. I started to feed her canned food to bring her weight back up, this worked, she seems quite closer to her old appearance and weight. However she still has some problems. 1. when she is fed a food or snack which she really loves she will eat so fast that she’ll vomit. 2. she is obsessed w/ drinking from the bathroom tub faucet or kitchen sink faucet. she will beg for water, she will then drink to the point of vomiting… Diabetes and kidney disease have apparently been ruled out by the normal blood chemistries, so do I just have an obsessive kitty? should we think about kitty prozac? anytime anyone goes upstairs she’ll run up in the hopes we’ll be using the bathroom, so she can beg for water. she sleeps on the toilet all nite  and jumps in the tub when someone comes to the bathroom late at nite… and she’ll sit in the tub and wait for someone to come, when she hears footsteps coming toward the bathroom cat otherwise seems shiny, healthy and very content. she is at an acceptible weight. — J.T. Robicheau "One of the most exhilarating experiences is being shot at without result." Winston Churchill

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