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From Guy Williams It is a difficult to crack in Texas. The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort. But a person that has worked 40 years and been very productive but is almost flat down gets a very difficult time. I have seen real bums, normal but decide they don’t want to work collecting with medicare benefits. Is being lazy a mental disability. I won’t touch the segment of our professional people that seem to be conned so easily.
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The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort.
could call it little effort. Of course, he had to actually DIE first. Good thing he was in the ER before he actually did it. Bev Remove the "SpamFree" for email, please.
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I received mine first try also. I was 48 at the time. I am glad Gib lived to tell about it. Give him hugs for me and a big hello. Di —
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I honestly await the day that I rearend a police car or serious harm another person because I no longer could push the petal to stop. my excuse: a judge on my 5th attempt told me I was too young for disability (though a neurosurgeon told me I was disabled) and instead of sitting programming all day for $27.00/hr I could sit at an information booth in the mall for $5.00/hr. ….so I was out looking for work, gotta eat! — RK [T1 - dx 5/00]-[Lantus/Novolog]-[Experiments in progress...] http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.faqs.org/faqs/diabetes/faq http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/files/zl-mirc.exe (chatroom software/verified clean w/Norton) Current Troll List: See ASD site for current list and how to killfile
: From Guy Williams : : It is a difficult to crack in Texas. The main : issue that impressed me was the fact that : a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily : at an early age with little effort. : : But a person that has worked 40 years and : been very productive but is almost flat down : gets a very difficult time. : : I have seen real bums, normal but decide : they don’t want to work collecting with : medicare benefits. Is being lazy a mental : disability. : : I won’t touch the segment of our professional : people that seem to be conned so easily.
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Guy, I recieved my diability on the lst try also, I had the hospital where I worked, and my primary doc help me. I did most of the paperwork over the phone; however, I tried one SS office, no help, went to another and the forms, etc., flew through processing. I’m from MI and don’t know if that makes a difference or not, really shouldn’t, as it is a Fed program. I see ad’s on TV for lawyers who can help, I would personnally stay away from them, as I think they get some kind of money, after you get on the disiablity. I hope you can continue to go for this; my doc said that sometimes they (gov) makes you jump thru the hoops, more than once. I would copy all the made out forms,it has saved me hours of rewriting and searching thru all my records. Good Luck, Mic Always, be, and stay AWARE!
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I got mine just recently on the first try at age 58. P.S. Di, plese send me your email address.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I received mine first try also. I was 48 at the time. I am glad Gib lived to tell about it. Give him hugs for me and a big hello. Di — The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort. you could call it little effort. Of course, he had to actually DIE first. Good thing he was in the ER before he actually did it. Bev Remove the "SpamFree" for email, please.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Guy, I recieved my diability on the lst try also, I had the hospital where I worked, and my primary doc help me. I did most of the paperwork over the phone; however, I tried one SS office, no help, went to another and the forms, etc., flew through processing. I’m from MI and don’t know if that makes a difference or not, really shouldn’t, as it is a Fed program. I see ad’s on TV for lawyers who can help, I would personnally stay away from them, as I think they get some kind of money, after you get on the disiablity. I hope you can continue to go for this; my doc said that sometimes they (gov) makes you jump thru the hoops, more than once. I would copy all the made out forms,it has saved me hours of rewriting and searching thru all my records. Good Luck, Mic Always, be, and stay AWARE!
The issue of social security disability is a moot issue for me. I am 72 now and have reclaimed my check for a long time. It still burns me to see what happens. The Houston Chronicle had a series of articles on the subject in Texas and how tough it was here. People that have worked for a lifetime and get as health situation where they can’t produce an income should get it with a bunch of bull. I am aware there is a lot of very young bums that manage to crawl on it and have a ball. I found a lot of cases in the Kentucky area. So when I see some older person here suffering from the same problems I faced almost 20 years ago, it gets my attention. I was lucky in that I had special skills and a very good wife so we managed to make it. Before I get flack, there are a lot of good people in Kentucky. But there is a "bunch of trash" in the hills too. Guy.
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Guy if you are talking bums like living in the streets they are mentally ill. They just dont give it to you for mental disability without examining you I applied and was asked to count back from a 100, name the president, the governor the mayor, etc. I passed the test and was denied, I appealed and needed verification from qualified physicians and I also wrote that just because of emotional problems, that dosnt make me stupid. You have to go through a lot to get for emotional distress Bums , not lazy people are sick. Just my opinion Loretta In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
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I got mine recently, also on the first try, at 46. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got mine just recently on the first try at age 58. I received mine first try also. I was 48 at the time.
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I worked for an attorney in 1993 that assisted people in getting SSI and Social Security Disability. The first client that I was introduced to and assisted had been making appeals for almost three years. She was in her mid-fifties, diabetic, blind, amputations on both legs (one below the knee, and one above the knee), three fingers amputated from one hand, and the arm amputated above the elbow. Social Security in their great wisdom determined that she was not disabled, and could be "retrained." She had no income or healthcare available from the state, and was reliant on friends, family, and non-profits organizations for her living and medical expenses. Her social security file was literally three feet thick with paper – I know because I am the one who spent two days at the SSA office copying it, and over two weeks studying it. The firm had been working her case before I arrived on the scene, three months after I started working on the case she finally received her benefit (just the way it worked out – not because I did anything spectacular). The second client that I worked with was a meth junkie. He had been denied disability only once before enlisting the help of the firm. We made an appeal on his behalf, and her received his award letter in less than 60 days. I found out Mom had absolutely no income when I went to be with her in Colorado when she was Dx’d in the hospital. I was shocked and saddened. Previous experience warned me that the fight for her to get benefits could be long and ugly. Her application was made in March of this year, and she received "Provisional" benefits within 60 days. Her actual award was declared in July – with a review set for February 2003 (her award letter stated that her condition was expected to improve within a year). Things are SLOWLY changing at Social Security. I can remember the days when the first answer was always "No." Marie, Caretaker Mom T2 Dx 3/2002
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – From Guy Williams It is a difficult to crack in Texas. The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort. But a person that has worked 40 years and been very productive but is almost flat down gets a very difficult time. I have seen real bums, normal but decide they don’t want to work collecting with medicare benefits. Is being lazy a mental disability. I won’t touch the segment of our professional people that seem to be conned so easily.
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Guy if you are talking bums like living in the streets they are mentally ill.
Some are…many are drug addicts or just plain lazy. My favorites are the ones who look like bums by day, panhadling at the McDonalds drive through who have nicer houses and better cars than most who are legitamitaly employed. They just dont give it to you for mental disability without examining you I applied and was asked to count back from a 100, name the president, the governor the mayor, etc. I passed the test and was denied, I appealed and needed verification from qualified physicians and I also wrote that just because of emotional problems, that dosnt make me stupid.
Disability benefits aren’t awarded to anyone (in the US) without an exam. BTW: the requirement of counting backwards from 100 and naming the president have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with determining if you are stupid…the questiona are almost routine when a person is admitted to a hospital or being prepped for surgery…they are only one tool to asses an individuals ability to make decision among other things. You have to go through a lot to get for emotional distress
Emotional/Mental disabilities are the most dificult to "prove" because of the subjective nature of the condition/disease – and because they are poorly understood. Cronic Fatigue wasn’t recognized as a dibilative disease until just a few years ago – largely because it was thought to be primarily a mental condition. Bums , not lazy people are sick. Just my opinion
Many bums are bums (lazy and/or drug addicts)…only a percentage of them are sick (emotionally/mentally) – fact. Marie, Caretaker Mom T2 Dx 3/2002
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Things are SLOWLY changing at Social Security. I can remember the days
when the first answer was always "No." Those people have gone on to make more money working at HMO’s. bj
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Things are SLOWLY changing at Social Security. I can remember the days when the first answer was always "No." Those people have gone on to make more money working at HMO’s. bj
Don’t know if they are making more money…SSA case workers make close to 30k a year, and supervisors make upwards of 50k. Those are better wages than most working folks in my area get. Marie
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Things are SLOWLY changing at Social Security. I can remember the days when the first answer was always "No." Those people have gone on to make more money working at HMO’s. bj Don’t know if they are making more money…SSA case workers make close to 30k a year, and supervisors make upwards of 50k. Those are better wages than most working folks in my area get. Marie
And since they are Federal Gov. workers, they have wonderful benefits. They would be fools to go to work for HMO’s and loose their excellent medical benefits. Pixie
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The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort. could call it little effort. Of course, he had to actually DIE first. Good thing he was in the ER before he actually did it. Bev Remove the "SpamFree" for email, please.
Really makes me feel good to hear self righteous pricks villianify people seeking or getting SSI or SSDI,ect. Especially since they have been "blessed" with a killer disease also. Some of these "bums" they so easily speak their evil witchcraft on fought in the war to defend their right to exsist and speak. Neverless, pridefully, they boast of how they would inflict dishonor and heap abuses on them if they had their way. Thank God they don’t. And speaking of that alot of them seem to call theirselves "Christians" and other affiliations that are not supposed to judge other people but these rebels continue their mindless babble and spew hate on anyone that is not like them. And they are for the most part alone as everyone they come into contact with is annealed away from them by the hate in their heart and eyes. And to hear them tell it, a person afflicted with a drug habit which includes alcohol addiction, is just a lazy good for nothing piece of human shit leeching off of the system. Or those with AIDS, hepatitus, mental problems, tramatic brain injury, should just go off and die alone in their misery and self inflicted hell and be left to rot on the street. This really shows that evolution might actually be a real hypothesis because they evidently have not completed evolvement from the animals they are like the rest of the planet. Don’t they remember when someone treated them like that? How it felt to be abused to the core by someone that was supposed to love them? How small and insignificant it felt and how those cruel words split their own hearts in two never to be the same again. Always wondering who they were and what the purpose of living for them was since they didn’t believe that they were worthy of bearing the mantle of life they were chosen to wear by whatever being gifted them ! And how that rottenness that abuser evilly spit on them grew in their affected minds and eventually infected their whole being with blackness! And here they are, spewing that sick hate onto others, trying to rape us with their blindness and convince us that they see clearly through the mind altered scales covering the places where eyes used to be. So don’t think we cannot know what you think and who you are. Some of us have been there and risen above through the persistant daily working of plodding on one day at a time. Some of us were just plain blessed an have never known what it is that taught you to hate yourself and everyone else in the universe. Then there are those that have found enlightenment somehow and have been miracously healed having out eyes opened and the scales taken away only to see that we are those people walking that street. We are human and God knows we are human and loves us anyway even though we cannot and never will ever be perfect just like those "bums" out there living under bridges swatting off West Nile mosquitoes and wishing hey had just a place to lay down without worrying about their safety and health. Or that they could just go to the doctor and see what is the matter with them. ?Or wish they could afford meds or had the energy to walk across a city to get to some place that gives free meds … maybe! Just remember that it is written that you will be judged for every word that proceeds out of your mouth for you religious fanatics ( not knocking honest belivers of any religion here) and what goes around multiplies what comes back around for the non religous and religous hatemongers. Something about casting your bread on the waters… My advice to you is simple. Get really honest with yourself about who you are. Get some counseling before your whole life is wasted living in more or less land. You are no better than anyone of those poor unfortunate souls you admonish. You just make it almost unbearable and uncomfortable for the rest of us because you are always a walking threat to our peace with that perverse shit. No one is taller than real life out here and you are no exception. There are no exceptions. Your life will end in death just like mine. The only difference is that some of us may actually know what it is to be who we really are without having to shit on our fellow man to feel good about ourselves. After all, you could have been in one of those airliners that hit the twin towers one year ago today. Would you have been any less of a person? Would you have been dead? You could have died in Vietnam if you had even gone. Or you can still walk around blindly with that buzzard feather in your cap thinking you are the most beautiful creature in heaven or hell…. please stop it ! … Don
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Don, I don’t know how you got all that from Bev’s post as I didn’t see anything that warranted being attacked like this. It is very evident you are hurting and I am sorry for that. I read what Bev said as a bum that was lazy not someone who went to war and such as you spoke of. In my life, I have seen where people got SSD and didn’t deserve it. I know someone personally who is faking and has the SSD but proving it is another thing. She once told me she didn’t go anywhere without her crutches and leg braces on because she didn’t want anyone catching her doing so. So to me she is the type "Bum" that Bev was speaking of. I have also seen people right here in this group who need and deserve SSD be denied. I myself am on it but I have seen people sicker than me needing it too and being denied. It is just politics and sometimes it just isn’t fair to all. All in just my VHO Diana —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort. you could call it little effort. Of course, he had to actually DIE first. Good thing he was in the ER before he actually did it. Bev Remove the "SpamFree" for email, please. Really makes me feel good to hear self righteous pricks villianify people seeking or getting SSI or SSDI,ect. Especially since they have been "blessed" with a killer disease also. Some of these "bums" they so easily speak their evil witchcraft on fought in the war to defend their right to exsist and speak. Neverless, pridefully, they boast of how they would inflict dishonor and heap abuses on them if they had their way. Thank God they don’t. And speaking of that alot of them seem to call theirselves "Christians" and other affiliations that are not supposed to judge other people but these rebels continue their mindless babble and spew hate on anyone that is not like them. And they are for the most part alone as everyone they come into contact with is annealed away from them by the hate in their heart and eyes. And to hear them tell it, a person afflicted with a drug habit which includes alcohol addiction, is just a lazy good for nothing piece of human shit leeching off of the system. Or those with AIDS, hepatitus, mental problems, tramatic brain injury, should just go off and die alone in their misery and self inflicted hell and be left to rot on the street. This really shows that evolution might actually be a real hypothesis because they evidently have not completed evolvement from the animals they are like the rest of the planet. Don’t they remember when someone treated them like that? How it felt to be abused to the core by someone that was supposed to love them? How small and insignificant it felt and how those cruel words split their own hearts in two never to be the same again. Always wondering who they were and what the purpose of living for them was since they didn’t believe that they were worthy of bearing the mantle of life they were chosen to wear by whatever being gifted them ! And how that rottenness that abuser evilly spit on them grew in their affected minds and eventually infected their whole being with blackness! And here they are, spewing that sick hate onto others, trying to rape us with their blindness and convince us that they see clearly through the mind altered scales covering the places where eyes used to be. So don’t think we cannot know what you think and who you are. Some of us have been there and risen above through the persistant daily working of plodding on one day at a time. Some of us were just plain blessed an have never known what it is that taught you to hate yourself and everyone else in the universe. Then there are those that have found enlightenment somehow and have been miracously healed having out eyes opened and the scales taken away only to see that we are those people walking that street. We are human and God knows we are human and loves us anyway even though we cannot and never will ever be perfect just like those "bums" out there living under bridges swatting off West Nile mosquitoes and wishing hey had just a place to lay down without worrying about their safety and health. Or that they could just go to the doctor and see what is the matter with them. ?Or wish they could afford meds or had the energy to walk across a city to get to some place that gives free meds … maybe! Just remember that it is written that you will be judged for every word that proceeds out of your mouth for you religious fanatics ( not knocking honest belivers of any religion here) and what goes around multiplies what comes back around for the non religous and religous hatemongers. Something about casting your bread on the waters… My advice to you is simple. Get really honest with yourself about who you are. Get some counseling before your whole life is wasted living in more or less land. You are no better than anyone of those poor unfortunate souls you admonish. You just make it almost unbearable and uncomfortable for the rest of us because you are always a walking threat to our peace with that perverse shit. No one is taller than real life out here and you are no exception. There are no exceptions. Your life will end in death just like mine. The only difference is that some of us may actually know what it is to be who we really are without having to shit on our fellow man to feel good about ourselves. After all, you could have been in one of those airliners that hit the twin towers one year ago today. Would you have been any less of a person? Would you have been dead? You could have died in Vietnam if you had even gone. Or you can still walk around blindly with that buzzard feather in your cap thinking you are the most beautiful creature in heaven or hell…. please stop it ! … Don
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort. could call it little effort. Of course, he had to actually DIE first. Good thing he was in the ER before he actually did it. Bev Remove the "SpamFree" for email, please. Really makes me feel good to hear self righteous pricks villianify people seeking or getting SSI or SSDI,ect. Especially since they have been "blessed" with a killer disease also. Some of these "bums" they so easily speak their evil witchcraft on fought in the war to defend their right to exsist and speak. Neverless, pridefully, they boast of how they would inflict dishonor and heap abuses on them if they had their way. Thank God they don’t. And speaking of that alot of them seem to call theirselves "Christians" and other affiliations that are not supposed to judge other people but these rebels continue their mindless babble and spew hate on anyone that is not like them. And they are for the most part alone as everyone they come into contact with is annealed away from them by the hate in their heart and eyes. And to hear them tell it, a person afflicted with a drug habit which includes alcohol addiction, is just a lazy good for nothing piece of human shit leeching off of the system. Or those with AIDS, hepatitus, mental problems, tramatic brain injury, should just go off and die alone in their misery and self inflicted hell and be left to rot on the street. This really shows that evolution might actually be a real hypothesis because they evidently have not completed evolvement from the animals they are like the rest of the planet. Don’t they remember when someone treated them like that? How it felt to be abused to the core by someone that was supposed to love them? How small and insignificant it felt and how those cruel words split their own hearts in two never to be the same again. Always wondering who they were and what the purpose of living for them was since they didn’t believe that they were worthy of bearing the mantle of life they were chosen to wear by whatever being gifted them ! And how that rottenness that abuser evilly spit on them grew in their affected minds and eventually infected their whole being with blackness! And here they are, spewing that sick hate onto others, trying to rape us with their blindness and convince us that they see clearly through the mind altered scales covering the places where eyes used to be. So don’t think we cannot know what you think and who you are. Some of us have been there and risen above through the persistant daily working of plodding on one day at a time. Some of us were just plain blessed an have never known what it is that taught you to hate yourself and everyone else in the universe. Then there are those that have found enlightenment somehow and have been miracously healed having out eyes opened and the scales taken away only to see that we are those people walking that street. We are human and God knows we are human and loves us anyway even though we cannot and never will ever be perfect just like those "bums" out there living under bridges swatting off West Nile mosquitoes and wishing hey had just a place to lay down without worrying about their safety and health. Or that they could just go to the doctor and see what is the matter with them. ?Or wish they could afford meds or had the energy to walk across a city to get to some place that gives free meds … maybe! Just remember that it is written that you will be judged for every word that proceeds out of your mouth for you religious fanatics ( not knocking honest belivers of any religion here) and what goes around multiplies what comes back around for the non religous and religous hatemongers. Something about casting your bread on the waters… My advice to you is simple. Get really honest with yourself about who you are. Get some counseling before your whole life is wasted living in more or less land. You are no better than anyone of those poor unfortunate souls you admonish. You just make it almost unbearable and uncomfortable for the rest of us because you are always a walking threat to our peace with that perverse shit. No one is taller than real life out here and you are no exception. There are no exceptions. Your life will end in death just like mine. The only difference is that some of us may actually know what it is to be who we really are without having to shit on our fellow man to feel good about ourselves. After all, you could have been in one of those airliners that hit the twin towers one year ago today. Would you have been any less of a person? Would you have been dead? You could have died in Vietnam if you had even gone. Or you can still walk around blindly with that buzzard feather in your cap thinking you are the most beautiful creature in heaven or hell…. please stop it ! … Don
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The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort.
I started this issue and I feel I am justified. I make no apology for presenting this. I have helped several people that need it. The procedures for social security are very unfair. A bum is a person that find ways to takes from other people while making no effort to provide the society with any productive effort. They want to take what you work for. I lost a lot in a court action to a real bunch of bums. So I am biased on this issue. You see I need the money since I was very sick and the loss did me great harm. The bums did not care, just so they received the money. All I can say is you have to decide if you are a bum. I don’t know you. All diabetics have a hard time in the later stages and life is not easy. I have had my share. We are here to support diabetics but a diabetic must try. I will have to correct a couple of dozen typos in this post. Life is not nice and we are only on the dawn of civilization. We are all in the same boat. But don’t ask me to be condescending without reason. Guy
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I started this issue and I feel I am justified. I make no apology for presenting this.
Apology to Guy has been emailed, along with an explanation for my feelings on the matter. Guy is a gentleman, and I jumped the gun on him, due to my personal experiences. I hope I’ve clarified that to him. Bev Remove the "SpamFree" for email, please.
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You both have engraved your own special places in "my" heart. I know why you said those things and I do understand. Gib is fortunate to have you for a wife. Love ya honey and take care. Di —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I started this issue and I feel I am justified. I make no apology for presenting this. Apology to Guy has been emailed, along with an explanation for my feelings on the matter. Guy is a gentleman, and I jumped the gun on him, due to my personal experiences. I hope I’ve clarified that to him. Bev Remove the "SpamFree" for email, please.
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My post may have appeared angry but it was not my intention! It greives me deeply that the perversement of the old and tiring "good old boys "network is still alive and well in the USA. And it is appauling that some people are crazy enough to actually place theirselves above others… especially among us that have found ourselves having to apply for government assistance to survive because of life threatening diseases and conditions. For myself, I came to a point where it was blatently apparent that life is very delicate and was a gift that can be easily gone in a wisp of time. Being raised in the south with the strong influences of prejuidce, shaming behaviors, polarized groups of haters and abusers in power and control over everything in the town have experienced the effects of this mental illness on my own life. And I am white ! No telling what the others have suffered. It is a fact that there are a very few people that are suffering from the mental illness of thinking that they should allow the whole to provide them with "free" things. But, in reality, they are deceived and have logic and thinking problems. Thus my reference to mental illness. As well there are those that have lived a productive life working and overacheiving who perceive themselves as better than their fellow man. Is this not also an "illusion of grandeur ", which is another brand of mental illness? I feel that they should be called out for trolling just like the other s trolling these newsgroups because their message is not one of healing but is a mesage attempting to shame others who may have no intention of enflaming them and futhermore do not want to have to sort through their sick rantings while attempting to find our own healing in newsgroups. Blatant hate messages are trolling IMHO. For those of you that are a bit older, maybe you can remember when those afflicted with polio in wheelchairs that were obviously disabled from that crippling disease. I remember someone telling me as a child not to get to close to one of them because I might catch it. Blatant ignorance and prejuidce. Over being disabled. To attack someone disabled is against the law in this country and to attack the mentally ill is the same act as ballbatting someone that is in the hospital for a heart attack. Same damn thing. Attacking the wounded. And most of these "bums" are not only physically disabled from life threatening conditions but many are mentally ill as well. Like the sign will work for food crowd. Is it not mentally ill to subject yourself to public abuse and embarassment for a few dollars? Maybe they cannot work … who knows? It is a far better way to get money for drugs or alcohol than robbing your house. And the fakes will get their just returns. Condemming people is just a waste of time and old and boring… Don
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My post may have appeared angry but it was not my intention! It greives me deeply that the perversement of the old and tiring "good old boys "network is still alive and well in the USA. And it is appauling that some people are crazy enough to actually place theirselves above others… especially among us that have found ourselves having to apply for government assistance to survive because of life threatening diseases and conditions. For myself, I came to a point where it was blatently apparent that life is very delicate and was a gift that can be easily gone in a wisp of time. Being raised in the south with the strong influences of prejuidce, shaming behaviors, polarized groups of haters and abusers in power and control over everything in the town have experienced the effects of this mental illness on my own life. And I am white ! No telling what the others have suffered. It is a fact that there are a very few people that are suffering from the mental illness of thinking that they should allow the whole to provide them with "free" things. But, in reality, they are deceived and have logic and thinking problems. Thus my reference to mental illness. As well there are those that have lived a productive life working and overacheiving who perceive themselves as better than their fellow man. Is this not also an "illusion of grandeur ", which is another brand of mental illness? I feel that they should be called out for trolling just like the other s trolling these newsgroups because their message is not one of healing but is a mesage attempting to shame others who may have no intention of enflaming them and futhermore do not want to have to sort through their sick rantings while attempting to find our own healing in newsgroups. Blatant hate messages are trolling IMHO. For those of you that are a bit older, maybe you can remember when those afflicted with polio in wheelchairs that were obviously disabled from that crippling disease. I remember someone telling me as a child not to get to close to one of them because I might catch it. Blatant ignorance and prejuidce. Over being disabled. To attack someone disabled is against the law in this country and to attack the mentally ill is the same act as ballbatting someone that is in the hospital for a heart attack. Same damn thing. Attacking the wounded. And most of these "bums" are not only physically disabled from life threatening conditions but many are mentally ill as well. Like the sign will work for food crowd. Is it not mentally ill to subject yourself to public abuse and embarassment for a few dollars? Maybe they cannot work … who knows? It is a far better way to get money for drugs or alcohol than robbing your house. And the fakes will get their just returns. Condemming people is just a waste of time and old and boring… Don
Don, life is not a bowl of cherries for a lot of us. Whether a person is entitled to benefit is a subjective thing. The world requires a certain level of performance. No car is made with some poor soul bolting the fender on that car. He is uppity because he wants his paycheck?. I am a hell of a mess. But I planted four trees yesterday while in a wheel chair. For years I went to work after plugging my nose to stop the bleeding. In my last years of work I struggled getting to work and getting home. I worked every day and was productive. I will compare my early life with anyone on this group. BAD You know I have had gross medical bills. I appreciate a system where this is available. I don’t demand much. I still try to be productive. But when I could not get social security and I see a person that is in good shape and Just unwilling to work waltz in and collect $1200 a month I think I am justified in being irate. I have a history of helping people but there is a limit. Calling people names makes your argument invalid. No one ever gave me anything. I avoided being a bum by working my ass off. Right now I am fighting to avoid being bum. The money grubbers sure try to make that happen. Guy ,.
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Don’t sweat the small stuff Don. Yes I thought you were angry but I forgive very easily. I sure wish I could still work. I don’t bring enough in on SSD to help my husband manage things. Like I said , to me a "bum" is a lazy person. A person I see without a home is a poor lost soul who life has kicked in the teeth. To me it is a big difference. I am a firm believer if someone needs the aid of the government fine that is wonderful they can get it but to use and abuse the system is where I have a problem and I know a couple who have done just that. It is sad because those type people make it hard on the ones who do need help badly. Take care and no hard feelings on my part, I just felt you gave Bev a really raw deal not knowing what all was involved with her anger. Diana —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My post may have appeared angry but it was not my intention! It greives me deeply that the perversement of the old and tiring "good old boys "network is still alive and well in the USA. And it is appauling that some people are crazy enough to actually place theirselves above others… especially among us that have found ourselves having to apply for government assistance to survive because of life threatening diseases and conditions. For myself, I came to a point where it was blatently apparent that life is very delicate and was a gift that can be easily gone in a wisp of time. Being raised in the south with the strong influences of prejuidce, shaming behaviors, polarized groups of haters and abusers in power and control over everything in the town have experienced the effects of this mental illness on my own life. And I am white ! No telling what the others have suffered. It is a fact that there are a very few people that are suffering from the mental illness of thinking that they should allow the whole to provide them with "free" things. But, in reality, they are deceived and have logic and thinking problems. Thus my reference to mental illness. As well there are those that have lived a productive life working and overacheiving who perceive themselves as better than their fellow man. Is this not also an "illusion of grandeur ", which is another brand of mental illness? I feel that they should be called out for trolling just like the other s trolling these newsgroups because their message is not one of healing but is a mesage attempting to shame others who may have no intention of enflaming them and futhermore do not want to have to sort through their sick rantings while attempting to find our own healing in newsgroups. Blatant hate messages are trolling IMHO. For those of you that are a bit older, maybe you can remember when those afflicted with polio in wheelchairs that were obviously disabled from that crippling disease. I remember someone telling me as a child not to get to close to one of them because I might catch it. Blatant ignorance and prejuidce. Over being disabled. To attack someone disabled is against the law in this country and to attack the mentally ill is the same act as ballbatting someone that is in the hospital for a heart attack. Same damn thing. Attacking the wounded. And most of these "bums" are not only physically disabled from life threatening conditions but many are mentally ill as well. Like the sign will work for food crowd. Is it not mentally ill to subject yourself to public abuse and embarassment for a few dollars? Maybe they cannot work … who knows? It is a far better way to get money for drugs or alcohol than robbing your house. And the fakes will get their just returns. Condemming people is just a waste of time and old and boring… Don
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There are few things that make a person feel better, emotionally and physically, than earning a living and keeping busy. Social security should only be used by people who are genuinely unable to work (yesterday my blood sugars went from 590 down to 32 and I worked the ENTIRE day, 10 hours). People take advantage of SS, and they know who they are. But a lot of people are deserving. Unfortunately, with cheating so prevalent and easy to do, it’s up to an individual to do the right thing so that people who really deserve it don’t have SS drained. And since I pay quite a bit into it, I’d like to have some left when I retire. :) Good health to all! Rae
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t sweat the small stuff Don. Yes I thought you were angry but I forgive very easily. I sure wish I could still work. I don’t bring enough in on SSD to help my husband manage things. Like I said , to me a "bum" is a lazy person. A person I see without a home is a poor lost soul who life has kicked in the teeth. To me it is a big difference. I am a firm believer if someone needs the aid of the government fine that is wonderful they can get it but to use and abuse the system is where I have a problem and I know a couple who have done just that. It is sad because those type people make it hard on the ones who do need help badly. Take care and no hard feelings on my part, I just felt you gave Bev a really raw deal not knowing what all was involved with her anger. Diana — My post may have appeared angry but it was not my intention! It greives me deeply that the perversement of the old and tiring "good old boys "network is still alive and well in the USA. And it is appauling that some people are crazy enough to actually place theirselves above others… especially among us that have found ourselves having to apply for government assistance to survive because of life threatening diseases and conditions. For myself, I came to a point where it was blatently apparent that life is very delicate and was a gift that can be easily gone in a wisp of time. Being raised in the south with the strong influences of prejuidce, shaming behaviors, polarized groups of haters and abusers in power and control over everything in the town have experienced the effects of this mental illness on my own life. And I am white ! No telling what the others have suffered. It is a fact that there are a very few people that are suffering from the mental illness of thinking that they should allow the whole to provide them with "free" things. But, in reality, they are deceived and have logic and thinking problems. Thus my reference to mental illness. As well there are those that have lived a productive life working and overacheiving who perceive themselves as better than their fellow man. Is this not also an "illusion of grandeur ", which is another brand of mental illness? I feel that they should be called out for trolling just like the other s trolling these newsgroups because their message is not one of healing but is a mesage attempting to shame others who may have no intention of enflaming them and futhermore do not want to have to sort through their sick rantings while attempting to find our own healing in newsgroups. Blatant hate messages are trolling IMHO. For those of you that are a bit older, maybe you can remember when those afflicted with polio in wheelchairs that were obviously disabled from that crippling disease. I remember someone telling me as a child not to get to close to one of them because I might catch it. Blatant ignorance and prejuidce. Over being disabled. To attack someone disabled is against the law in this country and to attack the mentally ill is the same act as ballbatting someone that is in the hospital for a heart attack. Same damn thing. Attacking the wounded. And most of these "bums" are not only physically disabled from life threatening conditions but many are mentally ill as well. Like the sign will work for food crowd. Is it not mentally ill to subject yourself to public abuse and embarassment for a few dollars? Maybe they cannot work … who knows? It is a far better way to get money for drugs or alcohol than robbing your house. And the fakes will get their just returns. Condemming people is just a waste of time and old and boring… Don
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The main issue that impressed me was the fact that a bum too lazy to work seems to get it easily at an early age with little effort. could call it little effort. Of course, he had to actually DIE first. Good thing he was in the ER before he actually did it.
How do you get a Social Security disability? Do they kneecap you? Also, do they give it to dead people? joe remove digits to email
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