I am FAT
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First you must get your medical condition under control, and get some advice from the doctor on what type of diet might work for you. Second you must give up smoking. While this won’t help weightloss (in fact you might put some weight on) it will help your life expectancy and general fitness. Fat non-smokers have better health than thin smokers.
Cannot give up smoking and lose weight. The weight comes off first then maybe I will consider giving up smoking sometime in the future. It is not on my list of priorities. You say you gained 7 pounds in one week. Most of that was water. every pound of fat contains 3500 calories. You did not eat 25000 extra calories in a week! Water balance is the bane of weight loss. A little gain of water here and there will affect your weight in the short term. Graph your weight over a month and you should be able to cancel out water balance errors using a running average.
How can I reduce the amount of water being collected and stored?
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Beck, Cannot give up smoking and lose weight. The weight comes off first then maybe I will consider giving up smoking sometime in the future. It is not on my list of priorities.
I actually agree with you, but do try to cut down a bit if you can because it won’t help you feel good. You have to be ready to quit and no one else can tell you when that is. But I hope it’s on your list of "Things to do" at some point – as a person with a chronic chest condition I can definitely say breathing is precious and shouldn’t be taken for granted. You say you gained 7 pounds in one week. Most of that was water. every pound of fat contains 3500 calories. You did not eat 25000 extra calories in a week! Water balance is the bane of weight loss. A little gain of water here and there will affect your weight in the short term. Graph your weight over a month and you should be able to cancel out water balance errors using a running average. How can I reduce the amount of water being collected and stored?
Drinking plenty of water stops the body holding on to it, ironically. And drastically cutting down on your sodium (salt and MSG) intake will help a lot. But the rest of it is a medical problem that needs checking out, I’m afraid. — Anna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 168 lbs
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you have to want it bad enough to wait for it, I have taken 118 weeks to lose 95 pounds, and I have lost 2 in the last 19 weeks, is that fast, NO is it significant YES, and what I would have gained over these weeks, added to my starting weight, is well, scary, Lee
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese 
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by sorting the medical issues you will be well on the road to the rest, and if you use this time to begin eating healthier you will have a jump on the day when your medical issues are fixed, good luck, Lee
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you have a slow thyroid you are not lazy, you are lethargic and unwell. Totally different. If exercise caused me breathlessness and pain I wouldn’t do it either! Ah but thats the thing, I am both :-) Thirdly, it could be impossible to actually lose weight until your meds are sorted out and working so your initial goal should be to avoid gaining any more than you have to and to start eating much more healthily. So that’s plenty of fruit and veg, complex carbs and protein foods, and cutting out the fat as much as possible; three regular meals a day plus a couple of healthy snacks; always eat breakfast (even if you don’t want to) and drink minimum 8 glasses of water or clear fluids a day (on top of tea, coffee, milk, chocolate and alcohol). Thanks for the diet advice, I shall take notice and do it wisely. Do book an appointment to see a dietitian if you can, as losing weight while hypothyroid is quite difficult and may need professional advice. I’ve never had a slow thyroid, but I am a chronic asthmatic and often feel as you do: lethargic and breathless. It is hard to do, but you have to accept your limitations and work within them, and concentrate on health rather than weight per se. Yes I agree, I do need to get health sorted out first, just that when I see how much I weigh, I feel its imperitive to also sorted out the dieting and exercise aswell.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Read through what you have written again. You are being very hard on yourself and not giving yourself any credit. But you are not allowing yourself to succeed either. I, and nearly everyone in this group knows how you feel, because we have all be overwight and we are all at various points on our weightloss journey. Reading between the lines, and please forgive me if I have got it wrong, you seem to be saying "I’m a hopeless case, nothing I do works, what is the point in trying I’ll only fail". But nothing is stopping you except yourself. I know nothing about under active thyroids and I know that taking medication sometimes makes things more difficult, but you can still get round this. Check with your doctor to see what they reccomend. Believe in yourself. You can do this. Everyone in this group will give you all the support you need. With regards to WW, I was never a meetings person either, and was dreading my first one. I suppose it depends very much on your leader but my meeting is now the highlight of my week. Nobody will make you say anything if you don’t want to go. If you really can’t face it there is online WW and this group to keep you on the straight and narrow. I wish you all the very best and hope that you can be a little kinder to yourself. You deserve it.
I am hard on myself but feel I need to be. Nobody else is going to do it for me. I have to face the reality that barring the medical problem, I am not doing enough to help myself. So things need to change.
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I am hard on myself but feel I need to be. Nobody else is going to do it for me. I have to face the reality that barring the medical problem, I am not doing enough to help myself. So things need to change.
You’re probably thinking that making yourself feel bad will be the spur you need, but psychology really doesn’t work like that! (Incidentally, I can recommend Dr Phil’s book on weightloss – he’s got the psychology aspects cracked). I remember reading a while back about an experiment: in the first group, slimmers were given pictures of themselves digitally enhanced to make themselves look even fatter. They had to put these pictures on the fridge. The second group had pictures digitally enhanced to make themselves look like they were going to look at their target weights. This group also had to put the picture on the fridge. At the end of the experiment the two groups were compared and the second group had lost *radically* more than the first. The first group, by comparison, had either lost a lot less weight, gained weight or dropped out of the experiment altogether! There are numerous examples, but basically, if you want to make yourself do anything and if you want to change your behaviour (ie eating) for the better, the real spur has got to be positive. You’ve got to see what you want and go for it, being aware that studies have also shown that most women aspire to be a weight and size 10% under what it should be. If you continue to believe that you aren’t worth it, that you’re fat, lazy and greedy, why would you look after yourself? Why would it matter if you were slim and fit? You have to start believing that inside you is a slim, fit person struggling to get out and that you can do it. So start with baby steps, clear out your refrigerator and write yourself a menu for next week. Good luck! — Anna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 168 lbs
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – First you must get your medical condition under control, and get some advice from the doctor on what type of diet might work for you. Second you must give up smoking. While this won’t help weightloss (in fact you might put some weight on) it will help your life expectancy and general fitness. Fat non-smokers have better health than thin smokers. Cannot give up smoking and lose weight. The weight comes off first then maybe I will consider giving up smoking sometime in the future. It is not on my list of priorities. You say you gained 7 pounds in one week. Most of that was water. every pound of fat contains 3500 calories. You did not eat 25000 extra calories in a week! Water balance is the bane of weight loss. A little gain of water here and there will affect your weight in the short term. Graph your weight over a month and you should be able to cancel out water balance errors using a running average. How can I reduce the amount of water being collected and stored?
You don’t need to drink excessive amounts of water – that can be bad for you too! But you o need to drink enough. 2 lt/4 pints per day in addition to any drinks containing sugar and/or caffeine is the recommended amount. Also cut down on salty foods and exercise regularly. And watch out for the hormonal swings: they can really sabotage you! I used to put on 5" round the waist at that time! If the thyroid meds are causing you to bloat, you may need a diuretic, but talk to the medical team about that, don’t just buy them off the shelf without checking. — Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!
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" HI there, thanks for the advice. I am certain the root of my problem is lack of exercise.
no its because you eat too much you greedy cow!
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Read through what you have written again. You are being very hard on yourself and not giving yourself any credit. But you are not allowing yourself to succeed either. I, and nearly everyone in this group knows how you feel, because we have all be overwight and we are all at various points on our weightloss journey. Reading between the lines, and please forgive me if I have got it wrong, you seem to be saying "I’m a hopeless case, nothing I do works, what is the point in trying I’ll only fail". But nothing is stopping you except yourself. I know nothing about under active thyroids and I know that taking medication sometimes makes things more difficult, but you can still get round this. Check with your doctor to see what they reccomend. Believe in yourself. You can do this. Everyone in this group will give you all the support you need. With regards to WW, I was never a meetings person either, and was dreading my first one. I suppose it depends very much on your leader but my meeting is now the highlight of my week. Nobody will make you say anything if you don’t want to go. If you really can’t face it there is online WW and this group to keep you on the straight and narrow. I wish you all the very best and hope that you can be a little kinder to yourself. You deserve it. Hazell
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese
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Hi Beck. The first thing you should do is check with your doctor – you might not be getting enough medicine for your thyroid. I don’t like exercise either, but that seems to be something I must do to lose weight. I am on a beta blocker with also slows down my metabolism, so I must exercise to speed it up. I suggest you try & start some also – you can do some even sitting in the chair – move your body to music whenever you listen to some – get up and dance a few steps to it – all will help. I also park the car further away for the stores which helps. Wish you luck. Elaine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese
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Cannot give up smoking and lose weight. The weight comes off first then maybe I will consider giving up smoking sometime in the future. It is not on my list of priorities.
Giving up smoking HAS to be on your list of priorities Long Term. The health benefits cannot be under-estimated. No – you can’t do both at once – but there’s always a good reason not to give up – believe me I’ve been there more than once…….you can always find an excuse but at some point you have to buckle down and do it……. Oops – a tad harsh…….ah well…… — krys UK 157/???/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004 …going nowhere fast…
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Beck, Cannot give up smoking and lose weight. The weight comes off first then maybe I will consider giving up smoking sometime in the future. It is not on my list of priorities. I actually agree with you, but do try to cut down a bit if you can because it won’t help you feel good. You have to be ready to quit and no one else can tell you when that is. But I hope it’s on your list of "Things to do" at some point – as a person with a chronic chest condition I can definitely say breathing is precious and shouldn’t be taken for granted.
Its only 10-15 rollups a day. Most of them are not smoked fully. So probably equates to around 7 normal ciggies.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cannot give up smoking and lose weight. The weight comes off first then maybe I will consider giving up smoking sometime in the future. It is not on my list of priorities. Giving up smoking HAS to be on your list of priorities Long Term. The health benefits cannot be under-estimated. No – you can’t do both at once – but there’s always a good reason not to give up – believe me I’ve been there more than once…….you can always find an excuse but at some point you have to buckle down and do it……. Oops – a tad harsh…….ah well……
Indeed it is important, but not an important factor for me at the moment. I do not smoke alot and to me, my weight is more important. Being obese is more of a problem than being a smoker as far as I am concerned. One day I might give up, but only when my mind is ready
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If you have a slow thyroid you are not lazy, you are lethargic and unwell. Totally different. If exercise caused me breathlessness and pain I wouldn’t do it either!
Ah but thats the thing, I am both :-) Thirdly, it could be impossible to actually lose weight until your meds are sorted out and working so your initial goal should be to avoid gaining any more than you have to and to start eating much more healthily. So that’s plenty of fruit and veg, complex carbs and protein foods, and cutting out the fat as much as possible; three regular meals a day plus a couple of healthy snacks; always eat breakfast (even if you don’t want to) and drink minimum 8 glasses of water or clear fluids a day (on top of tea, coffee, milk, chocolate and alcohol).
Thanks for the diet advice, I shall take notice and do it wisely. Do book an appointment to see a dietitian if you can, as losing weight while hypothyroid is quite difficult and may need professional advice. I’ve never had a slow thyroid, but I am a chronic asthmatic and often feel as you do: lethargic and breathless. It is hard to do, but you have to accept your limitations and work within them, and concentrate on health rather than weight per se.
Yes I agree, I do need to get health sorted out first, just that when I see how much I weigh, I feel its imperitive to also sorted out the dieting and exercise aswell.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese
First you must get your medical condition under control, and get some advice from the doctor on what type of diet might work for you. Second you must give up smoking. While this won’t help weightloss (in fact you might put some weight on) it will help your life expectancy and general fitness. Fat non-smokers have better health than thin smokers. Aerobic exercise is great for fitness and health, but it doesn’t help a lot with weightloss (it helps a bit though so keep doing it if you can). If you can find some kind of aerobic exercise you can put up with do it. Wlaking is a good start point. Then you need to look at your diet. 1500 calories is about right. WW suggests 26-31 points. Try to get as much protein as you can. Protein will contain your hunger so you’ll be less tempted to overeat. Take a look at www.fitday.com and track your food there if you don’t want to do WW. Keep to 1500 for a while and you should lose some weight. You might want to aim to maintain if you give up smoking and get your meds right. You say you gained 7 pounds in one week. Most of that was water. every pound of fat contains 3500 calories. You did not eat 25000 extra calories in a week! Water balance is the bane of weight loss. A little gain of water here and there will affect your weight in the short term. Graph your weight over a month and you should be able to cancel out water balance errors using a running average. Good luck Ray — 2002 1.8i eternal red
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First you must get your medical condition under control, and get some advice from the doctor on what type of diet might work for you. Second you must give up smoking. While this won’t help weightloss (in fact you might put some weight on) it will help your life expectancy and general fitness. Fat non-smokers have better health than thin smokers. Cannot give up smoking and lose weight. The weight comes off first then maybe I will consider giving up smoking sometime in the future. It is not on my list of priorities.
I agree with this one. You need to get your meds and weight under control before you add any more variables into your body. If I had to do it over again, I would have lost the preggo weight before I quit smoking. As a result I am working to lose both. I think if I had joined WW first, my eating habits would have been clean up and the amount of weight I gained due to quitting smoking would have been minimal. You say you gained 7 pounds in one week. Most of that was water. every pound of fat contains 3500 calories. You did not eat 25000 extra calories in a week! Water balance is the bane of weight loss. A little gain of water here and there will affect your weight in the short term. Graph your weight over a month and you should be able to cancel out water balance errors using a running average. How can I reduce the amount of water being collected and stored?
WW recommends drinking 6-8 (8 ounce) glasses of water or non caffine beverages per day. Cutting back on the preprocessed foods will also reduce the amount of sodium you consume. Fluids help flush it out of your system. You might also do some internet research on the thyroid meds you are taking. Or ask your pharmacy for info on the side effects of your particular meds. Water retention might just be one of the side effects.
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You say you gained 7 pounds in one week. Most of that was water. every pound of fat contains 3500 calories. You did not eat 25000 extra calories in a week! Water balance is the bane of weight loss. A little gain of water here and there will affect your weight in the short term. Graph your weight over a month and you should be able to cancel out water balance errors using a running average.
And drinking lots of water helps flush some of the extra water out of your system. Some of this weight is caused by the meds but some may be caused by lack of water so DRINK up!
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HI there, thanks for the advice. I am certain the root of my problem is lack of exercise. Also I just counted the calories I had for today and it is only 1,142. Maybe I am not eating enough for my weight? I will sort out my tablets, but I do not want to use that condition as an excuse for being a lazy slob. I am lazy and I do nothing and my laziness I know will be the death of me if I do nothing about it. I did some skipping today, about 10 minutes or so. I would have done more, but I became breathless and got a bit of chest pain. If I increase the amount of skipping I do each day, hopefully those symptoms will start to wear off. I also want to start swimming. I have a swimming centre near me so really I have no excuse, its just getting that motivation. Perhaps the kind of motivation I need is to see an obese person laying on a mortuary slab.
If you have a slow thyroid you are not lazy, you are lethargic and unwell. Totally different. If exercise caused me breathlessness and pain I wouldn’t do it either! Beating yourself up and telling yourself you have to do it or you’ll die are not good motivators – they’re the sort of self-talk that makes a person think "what’s the point" and dive into the chips. Firstly you need to sort out your medical issues – tell your doctor about the breathlessness and the chest pain. Both could be symptoms of thyroid, which could be a sign the medication’s either not kicked in yet, or isn’t working for you as well as they’d like. It can take a year or so of tinkering with thyroid meds to get it right. In the meantime, you have to be patient. Secondly, try to do some walking or swimming every day, but start off *gently* and any pain or discomfort, *stop*. 10 minutes a day at first would be a good start and then build up gradually, keeping your doctor informed. Thirdly, it could be impossible to actually lose weight until your meds are sorted out and working so your initial goal should be to avoid gaining any more than you have to and to start eating much more healthily. So that’s plenty of fruit and veg, complex carbs and protein foods, and cutting out the fat as much as possible; three regular meals a day plus a couple of healthy snacks; always eat breakfast (even if you don’t want to) and drink minimum 8 glasses of water or clear fluids a day (on top of tea, coffee, milk, chocolate and alcohol). Do book an appointment to see a dietitian if you can, as losing weight while hypothyroid is quite difficult and may need professional advice. I’ve never had a slow thyroid, but I am a chronic asthmatic and often feel as you do: lethargic and breathless. It is hard to do, but you have to accept your limitations and work within them, and concentrate on health rather than weight per se. — Anna (in UK) Start Weight: 174 lbs Goal Weight: 146 lbs Current Weight: 168 lbs
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s hard, but you do at least know the problem. The secret of success is slightly different for everybody, but the first thing I would do is pester you doctor. Thyroid meds take ages to get right, I hear from several acquaintances on them in different parts of the world. See if you can get to see a dietician familiar with helping people to lose weight in your circumstances. They may have some tips we here don’t know about. The only real way to lose is to limit intake and combine it with exercise. Start by looking at what you eat and when. Can you swap unhealthy choices for good choices in meals and snacks? Can you try to walk every day? I too am naturally lazy, but I *have* to walk most days to collect my son from school. That way I get 2 miles in per day. It used to take me 25 minutes to get to the school: now it takes me 10-15 (I’m quicker when it’s cold and I’m late! ;P ). I have also started swimming again, and am trying to do 2 sessions a week. I hated it to start with, and I do sometimes find it difficult (I have fibromyalgia, so sometimes just moving is painful!), but now I miss the days I *don’t* exercise! It gets easier as you get fitter. If you don’t like groups, have you considered WW on line? HI there, thanks for the advice. I am certain the root of my problem is lack of exercise. Also I just counted the calories I had for today and it is only 1,142. Maybe I am not eating enough for my weight?
Not enough! You are right there! I will sort out my tablets, but I do not want to use that condition as an excuse for being a lazy slob. I am lazy and I do nothing and my laziness I know will be the death of me if I do nothing about it.
Good attitude! You are half way there. It will be more difficult for you because of the condition, but once they get the meds sorted, a lot of that difficulty may go. I pray so! I did some skipping today, about 10 minutes or so. I would have done more, but I became breathless and got a bit of chest pain. If I increase the amount of skipping I do each day, hopefully those symptoms will start to wear off.
Increase a little every few days. Go to the point of a reasonable sweat (not swimming out of your clothes!) and breathlessness rather than pain, and you will have exercised the heart, which is good. Once you can sustain that level for 20 minutes and are NOT so breathless, increase the intensity/length of exercise until you get back to breathless, and keep at that level until it goes… and so on. I can now do 30 lengths of the pool, but back in the summer I was doing 40 in an hour. If I can get back to that twice a week, coupled with my daily walks, I should be fine. I also want to start swimming. I have a swimming centre near me so really I have no excuse, its just getting that motivation. Perhaps the kind of motivation I need is to see an obese person laying on a mortuary slab.
MUCH better to trot along to the pool, expose all you wobbly bits to the public gaze, look round and realizer YOU ARE *FAAAAR* FROM THE FATTEST PERSON THERE! ;) I was seriously concerned about exposing my 15 stone (210 lb) short personage to the scrutiny of all and sundry, but once I got there I realised that I was half the size of the fattest whale in the water, and they were having fun! If THEY could do it, so could I! Now I’m a rather smaller whale, and need to tone up those muscles again so I’m more like a porpoise… — Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!
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Hi Beck, Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping.
Nope – it doesn’t – my SIL has been there. Get your meds checked? I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week.
Maybe you’re actually not eating enough and need to eat more to kick start your metabolism? I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me.
Being cruel to be kind Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups).
Dieting does work. Really. But it takes perseverance….. If you suddenly start excercising at a much higher level, it does funny things to muscles and metabolism and things – you can end up with unexpected results. Now – if you’d stuck it out for a few more weeks……who knows? I don’t think of it as dieting anymore though – it’s more about learning a new healthier way of living. Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff.
You don’t have to do the group thing – there’s on-line, there’s here…..this is a great group. But you can’t go into this expecting quick results – it takes a long time. Consider that health professionals recommend a weekly loss of 1 to 2 pounds – it takes a while for that to add up. But that’s the healthy and sustainable way to do it. Hang in there, give it a few weeks, and take every loss as positive motivation – you can and WILL do it Write yourself a list of reasons why you’re doing it – what you hope to gain – and use that to help keep you focused. And let’s not forget the sticking the "before" photo on the fridge trick…… Best of luck to you, — krys UK 157/???/126 Started March 1st 2001 GOAL August 16th 2001 and July 22nd 2004 …in recovery mode…
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Hi beck and welcome to the group. I agree with Kate that you should go pester your doctor about you medication – it’s the most obvious place to start. Also, diet (that is, modifying your food intake) and exercise work hand in hand. Some can lose weight successfully just doing one or the other, but it’s a hell of a lot easier when you do both. Here’s the welcome notice which outlines the WW program, and gives you some options if you aren’t a group-type person. Welcome to this great newsgroup where you’ll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday’s post. In the meantime, here’s our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ our welcome notice: http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life (Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in Amberle3’s Challenges: Generic Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/ge.htm November 29-February 27 It’s Never Too Late Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/intl.htm December 6-February 27 Weight Loss Challenge Summary: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/summary.htm Other acronyms: http://www.wwlissa.com/dwlz100+/100+acronyms.htm Here’s a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce – How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week … as well as any activity points you earn on a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points … weight reaches 150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water. To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator … http://www.zythra.com/downloads/points.exe The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion … can divide them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the day they are earned. If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into. There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system. Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 – 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03 Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above can handle all of these programs. Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are just trying to yank someone’s chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if you’re stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn’t sound right to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional. Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works! — Julie. 93.5/73.9/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg 205.7/162.6/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb Here’s our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ and welcome notice: http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s hard, but you do at least know the problem. The secret of success is slightly different for everybody, but the first thing I would do is pester you doctor. Thyroid meds take ages to get right, I hear from several acquaintances on them in different parts of the world. See if you can get to see a dietician familiar with helping people to lose weight in your circumstances. They may have some tips we here don’t know about. The only real way to lose is to limit intake and combine it with exercise. Start by looking at what you eat and when. Can you swap unhealthy choices for good choices in meals and snacks? Can you try to walk every day? I too am naturally lazy, but I *have* to walk most days to collect my son from school. That way I get 2 miles in per day. It used to take me 25 minutes to get to the school: now it takes me 10-15 (I’m quicker when it’s cold and I’m late! ;P ). I have also started swimming again, and am trying to do 2 sessions a week. I hated it to start with, and I do sometimes find it difficult (I have fibromyalgia, so sometimes just moving is painful!), but now I miss the days I *don’t* exercise! It gets easier as you get fitter. If you don’t like groups, have you considered WW on line?
HI there, thanks for the advice. I am certain the root of my problem is lack of exercise. Also I just counted the calories I had for today and it is only 1,142. Maybe I am not eating enough for my weight? I will sort out my tablets, but I do not want to use that condition as an excuse for being a lazy slob. I am lazy and I do nothing and my laziness I know will be the death of me if I do nothing about it. I did some skipping today, about 10 minutes or so. I would have done more, but I became breathless and got a bit of chest pain. If I increase the amount of skipping I do each day, hopefully those symptoms will start to wear off. I also want to start swimming. I have a swimming centre near me so really I have no excuse, its just getting that motivation. Perhaps the kind of motivation I need is to see an obese person laying on a mortuary slab.
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Welcome to the group. You sound a lot like I was 2 years ago. I did not exercise at all and spend a lot of time at my desk. Dinner typically was fast food as I was always at the office. I did not think that I would like group meetings but now I look forward to them. I also could not lose anything on other diets. WW is the first one that I have lost any weight on in all my life. It does work. I have a few suggestions: 1) get your thyroid meds checked to make sure that they are at the right levels. I’ve always understood that your weight should level off once the meds are set right. So if you are still gaining weight then somthing might not be correct with them. Discuss your weight gain with your doctor too. 2) Check out a meeting to get the printed materials to get you started. Stay for the meetings for a few weeks. You might surprise yourself in liking them. If nothing else going to a few meetings will give you the info to get started. If you don’t like the meetings then check out the WW program on line. The site is http://www.weightwatchers.co.uk/index.aspx. You have the printed materials that outline the program and you can use the tools on the site to track your food and progress. 3) post here for additional support. This is a great group for support. We are all in the same boat as you are.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese
Welcome to the group! It’s hard, but you do at least know the problem. The secret of success is slightly different for everybody, but the first thing I would do is pester you doctor. Thyroid meds take ages to get right, I hear from several acquaintances on them in different parts of the world. See if you can get to see a dietician familiar with helping people to lose weight in your circumstances. They may have some tips we here don’t know about. The only real way to lose is to limit intake and combine it with exercise. Start by looking at what you eat and when. Can you swap unhealthy choices for good choices in meals and snacks? Can you try to walk every day? I too am naturally lazy, but I *have* to walk most days to collect my son from school. That way I get 2 miles in per day. It used to take me 25 minutes to get to the school: now it takes me 10-15 (I’m quicker when it’s cold and I’m late! ;P ). I have also started swimming again, and am trying to do 2 sessions a week. I hated it to start with, and I do sometimes find it difficult (I have fibromyalgia, so sometimes just moving is painful!), but now I miss the days I *don’t* exercise! It gets easier as you get fitter. If you don’t like groups, have you considered WW on line? — Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate’s Pages and explore!
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Lets start with the basics. I have an underactive thyroid and am taking tablets for this. My weight is increasing in leaps and bounds even though I should be losing a bit while on tablets. This is not an excuse for my overweightedness, but its not helping. I eat around 1500 calories a day (female) and weight 17 stone. I have put on half a stone in ONE week. I never exercise. I sit on the computer most of the day or play videogames. I am lazy. I am being brutally honest here as no-one else will do it for me. Now I have tried dieting and it does not work. I went on holiday and exercised every single day for 14 days (walked about 3 miles a day) and did not lose a single pound. I do not drink alcohol but I do smoke between 10-15 a day (roll ups). Thats about all I can say really. I desperately need to lose weight somehow, and bar amputating my body, I do not know how. I have considered weightwatchers, but dont like the group thing. besides, when I do diet and see no change in my weight, you can see why I lose the will for exercising and stuff. Advice please? for a desperate obese
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