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If your doctor diagnosed you without a blood test then he’s a quack….I believe a blood test is the only way to conclusively diagnose diabetes. I was diagnosed very quickly, my reading was 14.0 (252) about 2 hours after reading, the ER doc said that by definition I was diabetic…a non-diabetic would not have such high numbers.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – cc’d by email sheesh, the standard diet fraud’s line "ALL the world is lying, listen to my phony anecdotes" Typical bullshit It’s history. It happened. It’s documented. Even the former Secretary of the Agriculture when the USDA developed its pyramid admits things have changed now, and so should the pyramid. Did you even read the posted links or are you just so caught up in the government’s party line nutrition politics that you don’t care about what’s true and what’s not? Jerry
I wish someone could tell me which diet is proper and offer some real data on the validity of the claims. There are about 10,000 conflicting claims. If I don’t like any of them, I need to wait a year or two and a new set will come up. Of course you need to buy the book which are all well written by an English major. As far as titles, I worked with a fellow with a doctorate, he was a professional witness and claimed he doubled his income this way. He testified for the people paying the fee. "Why old people are so cynical" Guy
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cc’d by email sheesh, the standard diet fraud’s line "ALL the world is lying, listen to my phony anecdotes" Typical bullshit
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cc’d by email sheesh, the standard diet fraud’s line "ALL the world is lying, listen to my phony anecdotes" Typical bullshit
It’s history. It happened. It’s documented. Even the former Secretary of the Agriculture when the USDA developed its pyramid admits things have changed now, and so should the pyramid. Did you even read the posted links or are you just so caught up in the government’s party line nutrition politics that you don’t care about what’s true and what’s not? Jerry
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That may be fine in court but in the medical world scientific proof is what is accepted.
Oh, if that were only the case. The entire nutritional program advocated by the USDA, including what was to later become the Food Pyramid, was based on very questionable conclusions of limited research. The powers that were at the time simply needed something within the established timeline. And since Dr. Ancel Keys of the University of Minnesota advocated his "diet-heart" recommendations based on faulty research in the ’50s, the government hung its hat on that research, much to the chagrin of a few (but minority) of more prudent authorities. Only within the past 5 years or so has the truth of these early studies come out. And finally, even the former Secretary of the Agriculture who was in charge when the USDA came out with its bogus guidelines has admitted that it’s not as simple as once promoted. No, anecdotal evidence is not proof. And many times it’s simply false. But sometimes it’s just as valid as "real" evidence that has been manipulated to fit the expectations. For further reading: http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/taubes.html http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/skinny.html http://www.ravnskov.nu/myth4.htm Jerry
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This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. (In other words, don’t waste your keystrokes telling me this–I’m well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said …
Could be a brain tumour. You are about to die. On the other hand, it seems you are a hypochondriac. Don’t worry, be happy and all of that stuff. See your doctor. Trust him.
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Wow! That’s quite a post! I have dealt with panic issues for many years. If your thinking your blood sugar is out of wack, you may want to invest in a tester so that you can test during those attacks(~$15). Panic is so hard to control, because you fear the panic attacks, and that fear sets them off. Coffee should be out for you, and I mean none! Consider aerobic exercise of some sort. Relaxation techniques are also helpful. I was much the same as you, but with different systems. By all means check with the doctors, but you need to develop the tools to deal with the stress in your life. I thought I was going to die. I took rivotril for years, and only stopped recently. I feel that your doing what I was. I was trying to fit different diseases to my symptoms. Diabetes is not hard to diagnose, so I encourage you to eliminate that as quickly as possible and move on to dealing with your other issues. Glenn
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. (In other words, don’t waste your keystrokes telling me this–I’m well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said … I’m 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother’s side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father’s is as he has been on ativan for over a decade–he’s never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn’t encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don’t present like those that I’ve discussed with my friend and friend’s friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I’ve discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend’s house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed ‘dawn phenomenon’ (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn’t eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the ’sweetness of breath’. I’ve noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can’t remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I’ll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that’s the symptoms. The regiment I’ve developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it’s impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
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IMHO, a good doctor will carefully check out all the possible causes for the symptoms the patient presents, before making their best conclusion as to the primary cause of the distress. As someone else said, the process of elimination is part of that method. I can see why you are concerned about diabetes, with a family history of the disease. I do second the idea of getting a cheap meter and strips, even if it only relieves your fears, or gives you a record to take to the doctor. Test as recommended by Al, and keep a careful diary of food intake and results. If diabetes is ruled out, and you are still not happy with your doctors dx, see another doctor, and be patient and persistant in seeking an answer. As for the suggestion of hypochondria made here – that is also a medical diagnosis, and a serious disorder that only a qualified doctor is in a position to make. Sadly, it is oftened bandied about like an accusation, by people who don’t know what they are talking about. You do appear very distressed and worried, but that’s understandable. Once you get a correct diagnosis and helpful therapy, you are going to feel a lot better. In the meantime, go with the current dx, and look for therapies that prove helpful. Your current diet seems to me to be a bit unbalanced, you could add more fruit and veges to it, and really try and have something to eat for breakfast – even if you don’t feel like it. Only having a latte with sugar is something that those with diabetes just couldn’t handle, for instance. All the best, Annette
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I think I just made it up, or I could very well have stolen it. I am getting forgetfull in my old age. LOL! shits and giggles. never heard this one before! love it. Judy Type 1, 25+ years
So Many Cats… So Few Good Recipies…
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Really? care to post some science on that one. I wish to see how carbs affect seritonin levels in the brain. Most researchers believe panic disorders to be genetic and mostly affect women. The evidence is mostly anecdotal
Kinda thought so. — Ronnie Ruff skippin’ stones, we know the price now. Any sin will do how much further, if you can spin? how much further, if you are smooth? -indigo girls-
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Really? care to post some science on that one. I wish to see how carbs affect seritonin levels in the brain. Most researchers believe panic disorders to be genetic and mostly affect women. The evidence is mostly anecdotal Kinda thought so.
Anectodal evidence is kind of like circumstantial evidence in court. If you have enough of it, you can convince the jury. If there are no clinical studies designed to specifically measure the effects of carbohydrates on anxiety level (which I know of none), then you use what works for you and others like you. But you don’t dismiss it out of hand just because there’s no solid proof. — http://LowCarbDiet.us
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Anectodal evidence is kind of like circumstantial evidence in court. If you have enough of it, you can convince the jury. If there are no clinical studies designed to specifically measure the effects of carbohydrates on anxiety level (which I know of none), then you use what works for you and others like you. But you don’t dismiss it out of hand just because there’s no solid proof.
That may be fine in court but in the medical world scientific proof is what is accepted. With many so called dietary remedies the list of illnesses cured is sometimes endless. Manytimes there is a mind body connection, one wants the cure to work so it does. — Ronnie Ruff skippin’ stones, we know the price now. Any sin will do how much further, if you can spin? how much further, if you are smooth? -indigo girls-
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Consuming fewer carbs often reduces panic disorder, which seems to have happened in your case. Really? care to post some science on that one. I wish to see how carbs affect seritonin levels in the brain. Most researchers believe panic disorders to be genetic and mostly affect women.
The evidence is mostly anecdotal, but there is a lot of it. I am one glaring example. I used to consider myself lucky if I could walk a block without going into a panic attack. I could drive and go to work, etc., but I couldn’t go shopping or do almost anything else. After I was diagnosed with diabetes and was recommended a low-carb diet, my panic attacks virtually stopped and my anxiety decreased greatly, almost instantly after starting the diet. Here are a couple of sites that link anxiety to syndrome-x, which is caused by insulin resistance and is improved by a reduced carbohydrate diet: http://www.wrc.net/encyclopedia_details.asp?ID=14 http://www.positivehealth.com/Reviews/books/kenton75.htm
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Consuming fewer carbs often reduces panic disorder, which seems to have happened in your case.
Really? care to post some science on that one. I wish to see how carbs affect seritonin levels in the brain. Most researchers believe panic disorders to be genetic and mostly affect women. — Ronnie Ruff skippin’ stones, we know the price now. Any sin will do how much further, if you can spin? how much further, if you are smooth? -indigo girls-
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This post not CC’d by email Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. . . .[snip]. . . I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor. 1. Doesn’t sound like diabetes 2. Maybe, just maybe, just the tiny’est maybe, you have Reactive Hypoglycemia IN ADDITION to something else
The sweet breath seems like ketones from a low carb intake. Some of the symptoms sound like reactive hypoglycemia, a possible precursor of diabetes. Some people go through this stage, some don’t. That is a major problem with symptoms … there is considerable overlap between the symptoms associated with one illness and another. People doing self diagnosis or diagnosis by friend tend to notice every symptom that fits. What is often more indicative is which symptoms are missing. Doctors work on process of elimination, eliminating the most serious first. Oh and there is all the stuff you haven’t told us that would be obvious to a GP. You don’t mention weight, blood pressure, thyroid hormone levels etc, etc. That said, just on fifty percent of Americans currently have one or more chronic illnesses. Don’t be too surprised if you have several things at once. Dealing with one will often help dealing with the other. At least it will help with the diagnosis. It makes good sense to eliminate reactive hypoglycemia … the method is the same as Old Al has suggested for diabetes. If you get rapid falls in blood glucose to below fasting levels after meals then you have something to discuss with your doctor. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 3. Our diabetic syndrome is one of the easiest to to diagnose: a. Cheap Way: i. Run down to the nearest Wal-mart ii. Buy their Relion (House Brand) Blood Glucose testing meter and testing strips iii. Test your (fasting)blood glucose upon first awakening, and two hours after each meal. iv. Test your blood glucose when you have these "attacks" , or "episodes" Normies fall in the range 80 – 120 mg/dL Undiagnosed us’en’s exhibit 300’s and 40’s In any case, write the numbers down and show them to the doc. b. Expensive way i. Go to K-mart, Costco, Meijer’s, or any large, discount store with a Pharmacy ii. Buy any manufacturers blood testing meter with strips, (Hint: try for LifeScan Ultra or Accu-Check Advantage) iii. See instructions in "Cheap Way" shown above. Regards Old Al
– Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, #,#< [ / / "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin
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It sounds to ME like you have a bit of hypochondria. It happens; I tended toward it too when I was younger. Your diet sounds very good. Consuming fewer carbs often reduces panic disorder, which seems to have happened in your case. I agree with your doctor. If Xanax works, take it as needed and don't worry about it. -- http://LowCarbDiet.us
- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. (In other words, don't waste your keystrokes telling me this--I'm well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said ... I'm 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother's side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father's is as he has been on ativan for over a decade--he's never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn't encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don't present like those that I've discussed with my friend and friend's friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I've discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend's house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed 'dawn phenomenon' (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn't eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the 'sweetness of breath'. I've noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can't remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I'll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that's the symptoms. The regiment I've developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it's impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
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This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. (In other words, don't waste your keystrokes telling me this--I'm well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said ...
----snipped ---- All that and nothing about BG levels - Tests? You know how they say "It is the economy stupid?" Well you are not stupid of course but a diagnosis is all about blood tests. WO them no diagnosis. BTW your symptoms are alligned with the Dr's diagnosis. Panic attacks simulate low blood sugar because a hypo is in essence a panic attack your body starts to warn you your blood sugar levels are low. -- Ronnie Ruff skippin' stones, we know the price now. Any sin will do how much further, if you can spin? how much further, if you are smooth? -indigo girls-
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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. (In other words, don't waste your keystrokes telling me this--I'm well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said ... I'm 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother's side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father's is as he has been on ativan for over a decade--he's never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn't encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don't present like those that I've discussed with my friend and friend's friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I've discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend's house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed 'dawn phenomenon' (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn't eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the 'sweetness of breath'. I've noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can't remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I'll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that's the symptoms. The regiment I've developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it's impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
The pressure sounds to me like a panic attack but.... I have had it and so has a friend. Do you also get the feeling your going to die or the feeling of doom? You never mentioned what your Glucose results are that would be helpfull. However if your not happy with your Dr. find another one. Ken
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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - 3. Our diabetic syndrome is one of the easiest to to diagnose: a. Cheap Way: i. Run down to the nearest Wal-mart ii. Buy their Relion (House Brand) Blood Glucose testing meter and testing strips iii. Test your (fasting)blood glucose upon first awakening, and two hours after each meal. iv. Test your blood glucose when you have these "attacks" , or "episodes" Normies fall in the range 80 - 120 mg/dL Undiagnosed us'en's exhibit 300's and 400's
Hi Al I've never seen a test over 200, myself, and only 2 or 3 near 180. My dx fasting bgs were 150 & 140. Still, I earned my DM DX with those numbers. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - In any case, write the numbers down and show them to the doc. b. Expensive way i. Go to K-mart, Costco, Meijer's, or any large, discount store with a Pharmacy ii. Buy any manufacturers blood testing meter with strips, (Hint: try for LifeScan Ultra or Accu-Check Advantage) iii. See instructions in "Cheap Way" shown above.
That's great advice! I really wish I had done this when I first suspected I might the DM about a year prior to my DX. I had the head knowledge to do it, but I was in denial. Best regards and good health to us! == Kosta, T2 www.oznik.com
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Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. . . .[snip]. . . I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
1. Doesn’t sound like diabetes 2. Maybe, just maybe, just the tiny’est maybe, you have Reactive Hypoglycemia IN ADDITION to something else 3. Our diabetic syndrome is one of the easiest to to diagnose: a. Cheap Way: i. Run down to the nearest Wal-mart ii. Buy their Relion (House Brand) Blood Glucose testing meter and testing strips iii. Test your (fasting)blood glucose upon first awakening, and two hours after each meal. iv. Test your blood glucose when you have these "attacks" , or "episodes" Normies fall in the range 80 – 120 mg/dL Undiagnosed us’en’s exhibit 300’s and 40’s In any case, write the numbers down and show them to the doc. b. Expensive way i. Go to K-mart, Costco, Meijer’s, or any large, discount store with a Pharmacy ii. Buy any manufacturers blood testing meter with strips, (Hint: try for LifeScan Ultra or Accu-Check Advantage) iii. See instructions in "Cheap Way" shown above. Regards Old Al
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The easiest way for you to check your own blood glucose levels during the day is to go to your nearest Wal-Mart and buy their $8.88 ReliOn meter. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. (In other words, don’t waste your keystrokes telling me this–I’m well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said … I’m 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother’s side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father’s is as he has been on ativan for over a decade–he’s never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn’t encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don’t present like those that I’ve discussed with my friend and friend’s friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I’ve discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend’s house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed ‘dawn phenomenon’ (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn’t eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the ’sweetness of breath’. I’ve noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can’t remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I’ll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that’s the symptoms. The regiment I’ve developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it’s impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
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LOL! shits and giggles. never heard this one before! love it. Judy Type 1, 25+ years
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ted’s answer sounds correct to me, but just for shits and giggles, have you had your blood glucose checked? SM we are not physicians, AND, we have not examined you. It does NOT sound like diabetes, and it DOES sound like anxiety attacks. If you are unhappy with your doctor, get a NEW doctor and ask him or her. There are lots of possibilities as to what it could be, and, from your description, your doctor seems to be running what sound like appropriate tests. Possibly a different med would help. Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosis ed me. (In other words, don’t waste your keystrokes telling me this–I’m well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said … I’m 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother’s side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father’s is as he has been on ativan for over a decade–he’s never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn’t encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don’t present like those that I’ve discussed with my friend and friend’s friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I’ve discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend’s house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed ‘dawn phenomenon’ (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn’t eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the ’sweetness of breath’. I’ve noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can’t remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I’ll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that’s the symptoms. The regiment I’ve developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it’s impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor. So Many Cats…. So Few Good Recipes
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Ted’s answer sounds correct to me, but just for shits and giggles, have you had your blood glucose checked? SM – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – we are not physicians, AND, we have not examined you. It does NOT sound like diabetes, and it DOES sound like anxiety attacks. If you are unhappy with your doctor, get a NEW doctor and ask him or her. There are lots of possibilities as to what it could be, and, from your description, your doctor seems to be running what sound like appropriate tests. Possibly a different med would help. Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosis ed me. (In other words, don’t waste your keystrokes telling me this–I’m well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said … I’m 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother’s side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father’s is as he has been on ativan for over a decade–he’s never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn’t encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don’t present like those that I’ve discussed with my friend and friend’s friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I’ve discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend’s house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed ‘dawn phenomenon’ (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn’t eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the ’sweetness of breath’. I’ve noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can’t remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I’ll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that’s the symptoms. The regiment I’ve developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it’s impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
So Many Cats…. So Few Good Recipes
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we are not physicians, AND, we have not examined you. It does NOT sound like diabetes, and it DOES sound like anxiety attacks. If you are unhappy with your doctor, get a NEW doctor and ask him or her. There are lots of possibilities as to what it could be, and, from your description, your doctor seems to be running what sound like appropriate tests. Possibly a different med would help. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosis ed me. (In other words, don’t waste your keystrokes telling me this–I’m well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said … I’m 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother’s side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father’s is as he has been on ativan for over a decade–he’s never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn’t encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don’t present like those that I’ve discussed with my friend and friend’s friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I’ve discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend’s house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed ‘dawn phenomenon’ (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn’t eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the ’sweetness of breath’. I’ve noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can’t remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I’ll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that’s the symptoms. The regiment I’ve developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it’s impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
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Hi all- This is my first post to a diabetes group. I want to preface this with the fact that I know I need to get a 2nd opinion and that my current doctor may or may not have inaccurately diagnosised me. (In other words, don’t waste your keystrokes telling me this–I’m well aware of this and plan to seek out other opinions, especially in light of my recent research.) My reasoning in requesting your opinions is that you live with this every day and sometimes know more inimately the idiosyncrasies of the disease. That being said … I’m 27 years old. My grandmother died of complications from a diabetic stroke. My cousin (on my mother’s side) also has diabetes. I believe mother does as well (when I visit home, I see literature on it and she is very careful about her diet, e.g. eats turnips at sunday dinner while the rest of the family eats ridiculous amounts of mashed potatoes). My father exhibits characteristics very much like mine, but does not have a diabetes diagnosis. My current diagnosis from my doctor is anxiety/panic disorder (as I would suppose my father’s is as he has been on ativan for over a decade–he’s never made it clear what the symptoms are though and doesn’t encourage inquiries into them). My symptoms, however, don’t present like those that I’ve discussed with my friend and friend’s friends who have anxiety/panic, nor like that of those I’ve discourced with on anxiety support sites. Brief history: Age 22: While driving home 3 hours Sunday nights from visit with girlfriend’s house, I would start off by filling the gas tank and getting a large coffee (with no dinner). Then, along the way, my vision would blur and my head would have an intense pressure. Driving straight was bearable, but the curves would cause some sort of confusion and I would have to slow down and the head pressure would escalate to the point where it felt as if something in there might burst. I developed a habit of stopping along the way at a Burger King for a double cheeseburger (not my normal cuisine) and I seemed to feel much better thereafter. At this time I also had a stressful job with a startup company in the northeast. For some time (maybe 6 mos) this was the only time I noticed this feeling. Then I started noticing it occasionally and it seemed to correlate with lack of sleep. Then my girlfriend graduated from college and we travelled for almost 6 mos. During this time, I had almost no experience of the head pressure. Then we moved out to a part of the country foreign to us. Here is where it became chronic (about age 24). I became aware that caffeine was not OK for me. The head pressure would skyrocket. I also noticed that I craved orange juice in the morning, but would feel worse an hour or so after drinking it on a empty stomach. The head pressure would also lessen with a carbohydrate (a muffin, a small bag of chips). Temporary solution I realized though. I started regulating my diet. I cut my caffeine intake to the bone. I cut out sugars and started eating protein for every meal (I now crave almost nothing but protein). Sleep became huge. A good night sleep would set up a good day for me. A bad night sleep would make for a nightmare of a day. I developed ‘dawn phenomenon’ (just read about that tonight), waking up at 4 every morning with my head about to explode. I had numbness in the limbs and sometimes noticed a difference between left side and right side in terms of nerves. At one point along the way (about 2 years ago) I was out walking with my girlfriend (who had no idea I was going through this) and felt like my head was about to explode. I told her what was going on and then took on a doctor. He sent me off for a seizure test and looked into brain tumors. Negative. He also did a blood test where I hadn’t eaten for 12 hours before. His answer was panic disorder and the solution was xanax (which does work quite well, but I only take it when absolutely necessary ~.5mg week) Another thing I read about tonight is the ’sweetness of breath’. I’ve noticed that when I have the head pressure, I take deep, sighing breaths and when I exhale it is sweet and almost as if I had been drinking. I first started noticing this when I was about 20 and never thought much of it. I also have had sores, off and on, on my chest and then thighs. Finally, confusion often preceeds and coincides with my head pressure. Somebody will be talking to me and I get bored and then uncomfortable and then I can’t remember what they are talking about and the pressure sky rockets. Sometimes I’ll start a thought and lose it and be confused why and the pressure returns. So that’s the symptoms. The regiment I’ve developed in response to my observations is: Walk to work (2 miles) (every other day) Whole milk single latte (with sugar) for breakfast High protein lunch (e.g. roast beef & cheddar sandwich, no chips or fries) Sometimes walk home High protein dinner (steak, chicken, fish) with dark green veg (spinach or asparagus)(I still do love potatos, rice and noodles and will indulge once a week or so) Glass of wine or a beer with dinner and another before bed Bed around 12; wake around 8 Anyway, I realize it’s impossible to tell from a newsgroup post if a person has diabetes vs. an overactive adrenal gland vs. anything else. I am curious about your opinions though and would like to be more knowledgable when I meet my next doctor.
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