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writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hey folks: I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well. Thanks, James M.
Hi James – I have been using Imovane (Zopiclone) for nearly 6 years. It does become less effective over time, but it still usually gets me to sleep. At first, it would knock me out cold for around 6 hours. Now it only lasts for around 3 hours, but if all you need is something to get you off to sleep, it is very useful. I noticed that some of the other replies mentioned a metallic taste – I have never personally experienced that with Imovane, but YMMV of course. Another good thing about it is that unlike some sleeping pills, it doesn’t leave you feeling groggy when you wake up – I usually find that within ten minutes or so of waking, I am fully alert. Hope this helps — Jon Guite When replying by email, please remove the trailing x from my return address
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I sure got the bitter taste. Man, did it linger! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t get the bitter taste from it, the rest sounds right. And I have found no need to increase dosage over time, one works as well today as it did three years ago. I do take breaks during spring and summer, and during holidays in the winter when I can afford to lose a little sleep at night. I’ve used Imovane often, and found it to be an excellent sleep aid. In terms of sleep onset, you’ll feel a little fluffy 20 minutes or so after taking it (and you’ll get a bitter taste in your mouth) and when you go to bed, you’ll probably fall asleep instantly. The bitter taste, unfortunately, will linger into the next day. The problem I’ve encountered with Imovane is that it just doesn’t work for me any more. I think I might have developed a tolerance to it very quickly. The last time I got an Rx from Imovane, having taken a long break from it, I found myself taking 2, 3 even 4 pills with little if any effect. It could be just me. You mentioned using it on a long-term basis – I don’t think it’s indicated for that, unfortunately. You should talk to your doc anyway. I *wish* Imovane would work for me like it used to, because it was fantastic. I would hit the pillow and fall asleep right away. As a matter of fact, I’m going to see a doc today to find something that works for me, because I’ve tried just about everything – temazepam (Restoril), trazodone (Desyrel), and popping 5 of my clonazepam with 4 or 5 OTC sleep aids (which I liken to a 14-year-old doing Nyquil shooters) – and nothing works any more. I’m worried that my only hope now is barbiturates…. Give Imovane a try – it will work great for a while – but keep in mind that you might develop a rapid tolerance to it, and you’ll have to get used to a residual bitterness in your mouth. Good luck. renton Hey folks: I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well. Thanks, James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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writes: Just out of curiousity, has anybody used a VERY small dose of the new anti-psychotics (ie. Risperdal, Zyprexa(sp?) to help induce sleep?
Yes; take them about 2 hours before you want to start feeling foggy. I find they make me feel crappy the next day. Seroquel (a newer one which you didn’t mention) is the least offensive of the 3 for me. The other thing is, they didn’t keep working – I kept having to raise the dose. Risperdal also caused broken sleep with vivid, intense dreams for me. Dose varies, but say about 0.5-1mg of Risperdal, 2.5-5mg of Zyprexa, or 25-50mg of Seroquel to start with. -elizabeth
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Funny – I’m just about to go see a doc for something stronger than Imovane, since it doesn’t work. Neither does temazepam (Restoril) and I had a bad renton
I’ve not responded well to trazodone, as well. I’m interested in hearing what " a bad trip" is. I have trouble getting to sleep, and I’ve found that trazodone and ambien don’t put me to sleep, but they’ll keep me asleep for bizarre lengths of time. Also, what’s the generic name of Imovane? — { That’ll do, } O o . { pig. } Melissa!
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Also, what’s the generic name of Imovane?
Zopiclone. Chris.
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The bad trip I had on trazodone was extreme anxiety and feeling so stoned I couldn’t sleep. (Of course, I had been prescribed twice as much as I should have.) Someone pointed out that since Serzone caused me anxiety, trazodone could as well, since they’re related. The generic name of Imovane (aka Rhovane) is zopiclone. It’s fantastic, but it stopped working for me. Guess I took too much… I’m going to see if I can get more tomorrow, to see if my tolerance has lessened. Tried Dalmane (flurazepam) for the first time last night. I’m a bit disappointed. Didn’t do all that much… I think Shapere is right, I’m renton – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve not responded well to trazodone, as well. I’m interested in hearing what " a bad trip" is. I have trouble getting to sleep, and I’ve found that trazodone and ambien don’t put me to sleep, but they’ll keep me asleep for bizarre lengths of time. Also, what’s the generic name of Imovane? — { That’ll do, } O o . { pig. } Melissa!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve used Imovane often, and found it to be an excellent sleep aid. In terms of sleep onset, you’ll feel a little fluffy 20 minutes or so after taking it (and you’ll get a bitter taste in your mouth) and when you go to bed, you’ll probably fall asleep instantly. The bitter taste, unfortunately, will linger into the next day. The problem I’ve encountered with Imovane is that it just doesn’t work for me any more. I think I might have developed a tolerance to it very quickly. The last time I got an Rx from Imovane, having taken a long break from it, I found myself taking 2, 3 even 4 pills with little if any effect. It could be just me. You mentioned using it on a long-term basis – I don’t think it’s indicated for that, unfortunately. You should talk to your doc anyway. I *wish* Imovane would work for me like it used to, because it was fantastic. I would hit the pillow and fall asleep right away. As a matter of fact, I’m going to see a doc today to find something that works for me, because I’ve tried just about everything – temazepam (Restoril), trazodone (Desyrel), and popping 5 of my clonazepam with 4 or 5 OTC sleep aids (which I liken to a 14-year-old doing Nyquil shooters) – and nothing works any more. I’m worried that my only hope now is barbiturates…. Give Imovane a try – it will work great for a while – but keep in mind that you might develop a rapid tolerance to it, and you’ll have to get used to a residual bitterness in your mouth. Good luck. renton Just out of curiousity, has anybody used a VERY small dose of the new anti-psychotics (ie. Risperdal, Zyprexa(sp?) to help induce sleep?? A friend of mine has a VERY liberal pdoc, who pretty much dispenses anything (good..bad…I don’t know..)…but has found that taking 0.5mg’s of Risperdal before bed helps drift into sleep. Any comments??? Thanks, James M. p.s. just got my Imovane from my pdoc today…I will see how it works..as I was conversing with one guy who has been on it for 3 years, at the same dose, with no problems… — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
James, at one point last summer I was on, not at the same time but at 2 different times both Zyprexa and Seroquel which are the newer anti-psychotics out on the market to try to help me sleep. Nothing helps me sleep but I recall Zyprexa knocked me out. I don’t remember about the Seroquel. My dose of Zyprexa got as high as 30mgs then we worked our way down to 2.5 mgs and when I had that low of doseage I had trouble sleeping. My doseage on Seroquel on was 150mgs. I think I slept well, we could have gone higher but we didn’t. We just took me off it, we are thinking of putting me back on it actually. But I would recommend those for sleep aids. Betsy Ach
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Funny – I’m just about to go see a doc for something stronger than Imovane, since it doesn’t work. Neither does temazepam (Restoril) and I had a bad renton I’ve not responded well to trazodone, as well. I’m interested in hearing what " a bad trip" is. I have trouble getting to sleep, and I’ve found that trazodone and ambien don’t put me to sleep, but they’ll keep me asleep for bizarre lengths of time. Also, what’s the generic name of Imovane?
Imovane is Zoplicone, and is not available in the U.S., only Canada, Europe and a few others. It, to my knowledge (which is very little…hehehe;-), is similar in it’s action as Ambien. As far as what is more effective..I couldn’t say. Imovane HAS been working fine for me…I can tell the difference BANG off between it and benzos…it has a nice slow natural feeling of sedation to it, and no hangover in the morning. I am not sure where you could get it from in the U.S. though. Have you ever tried an Ambien/Benzo(like klonipin) combo at bedtime?? James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Just out of curiousity, has anybody used a VERY small dose of the new anti-psychotics (ie. Risperdal, Zyprexa(sp?) to help induce sleep? Yes; take them about 2 hours before you want to start feeling foggy. I find they make me feel crappy the next day. Seroquel (a newer one which you didn’t mention) is the least offensive of the 3 for me. The other thing is, they didn’t keep working – I kept having to raise the dose. Risperdal also caused broken sleep with vivid, intense dreams for me. Dose varies, but say about 0.5-1mg of Risperdal, 2.5-5mg of Zyprexa, or 25-50mg of Seroquel to start with. -elizabeth
I had a problem with risperdal where more than 0.5 mg of risperdal right before bed would keep me awake for hours if I didn’t fall asleep right away. I’m dubious about using it as a sleep aid, but maybe it would work differently for other people. — The reply address is faked to avoid spam. Please reply to me by posting if necessary. Support the anti-Spam amendment. Join at http://www.cauce.org/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Funny – I’m just about to go see a doc for something stronger than Imovane, since it doesn’t work. Neither does temazepam (Restoril) and I had a bad renton Hi James – I take one tablet every night for exactly the reason you mention – my pdoc describes it as a mild hypnotic, to allow me to fall asleep. I will lie in bed for hours without it when I am depressed. I also take clonazapam to keep me asleep (2×5mg), but they don’t do much to help me get to sleep, I can take them during the day to chill out without getting drowsy. I find I need this from about November until April, which is my natural (?) cycle of sleep disruption from depression. I also take them from time to time during the rest of the year as needed. I have found them a little difficult to stop taking and have to stop slowly, cutting the dose over a couple weeks and being prepared to take longer to get to sleep at first. Hope this helps, take care.
Well, I WAS on Nitrazepam before..but found it did SQUAT..it was like taking a sugar pill. So, I am hoping a non0benzodiazepine like Imovane can help. If not….I may switch pdocs…and ask for a VERY small dose of Risperdal. James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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I don’t get the bitter taste from it, the rest sounds right. And I have found no need to increase dosage over time, one works as well today as it did three years ago. I do take breaks during spring and summer, and during holidays in the winter when I can afford to lose a little sleep at night. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve used Imovane often, and found it to be an excellent sleep aid. In terms of sleep onset, you’ll feel a little fluffy 20 minutes or so after taking it (and you’ll get a bitter taste in your mouth) and when you go to bed, you’ll probably fall asleep instantly. The bitter taste, unfortunately, will linger into the next day. The problem I’ve encountered with Imovane is that it just doesn’t work for me any more. I think I might have developed a tolerance to it very quickly. The last time I got an Rx from Imovane, having taken a long break from it, I found myself taking 2, 3 even 4 pills with little if any effect. It could be just me. You mentioned using it on a long-term basis – I don’t think it’s indicated for that, unfortunately. You should talk to your doc anyway. I *wish* Imovane would work for me like it used to, because it was fantastic. I would hit the pillow and fall asleep right away. As a matter of fact, I’m going to see a doc today to find something that works for me, because I’ve tried just about everything – temazepam (Restoril), trazodone (Desyrel), and popping 5 of my clonazepam with 4 or 5 OTC sleep aids (which I liken to a 14-year-old doing Nyquil shooters) – and nothing works any more. I’m worried that my only hope now is barbiturates…. Give Imovane a try – it will work great for a while – but keep in mind that you might develop a rapid tolerance to it, and you’ll have to get used to a residual bitterness in your mouth. Good luck. renton Hey folks: I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well. Thanks, James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well.
Bear in mind that zopiclone (gn for Imovane) is generally thought of as a short-term solution, and its efficacy diminishes significantly after as little as a week of use for most people. To build up that level of usefulness, patients are recommended to take "one week on, one off" as long-term continual use will really only work under that regimen. Another possibility is using Mogadon (gn nitrazepam) for the alternate weeks as that’s also, generally speaking, a useful sleeping aid. I personally found it a lot more effective than zopiclone but, as usual, your milage will undoubtedly vary with these medications. Mogadon was interesting to me as I’m normally quite resistant to drug treatments but this stuff was the only sleeping drug I found that had any effect (lasted about 7 hours a night when I was suffering chronic insomnia) but, being of the benzodiazepine class, you need to be careful about how you discontinue treatment (ie don’t stop suddenly otherwise you’ll regret it!) For the record, I took 20mg/night. Chris.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve used Imovane often, and found it to be an excellent sleep aid. In terms of sleep onset, you’ll feel a little fluffy 20 minutes or so after taking it (and you’ll get a bitter taste in your mouth) and when you go to bed, you’ll probably fall asleep instantly. The bitter taste, unfortunately, will linger into the next day. The problem I’ve encountered with Imovane is that it just doesn’t work for me any more. I think I might have developed a tolerance to it very quickly. The last time I got an Rx from Imovane, having taken a long break from it, I found myself taking 2, 3 even 4 pills with little if any effect. It could be just me. You mentioned using it on a long-term basis – I don’t think it’s indicated for that, unfortunately. You should talk to your doc anyway. I *wish* Imovane would work for me like it used to, because it was fantastic. I would hit the pillow and fall asleep right away. As a matter of fact, I’m going to see a doc today to find something that works for me, because I’ve tried just about everything – temazepam (Restoril), trazodone (Desyrel), and popping 5 of my clonazepam with 4 or 5 OTC sleep aids (which I liken to a 14-year-old doing Nyquil shooters) – and nothing works any more. I’m worried that my only hope now is barbiturates…. Give Imovane a try – it will work great for a while – but keep in mind that you might develop a rapid tolerance to it, and you’ll have to get used to a residual bitterness in your mouth. Good luck. renton
Just out of curiousity, has anybody used a VERY small dose of the new anti-psychotics (ie. Risperdal, Zyprexa(sp?) to help induce sleep?? A friend of mine has a VERY liberal pdoc, who pretty much dispenses anything (good..bad…I don’t know..)…but has found that taking 0.5mg’s of Risperdal before bed helps drift into sleep. Any comments??? Thanks, James M. p.s. just got my Imovane from my pdoc today…I will see how it works..as I was conversing with one guy who has been on it for 3 years, at the same dose, with no problems… — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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Hi James – I take one tablet every night for exactly the reason you mention – my pdoc describes it as a mild hypnotic, to allow me to fall asleep. I will lie in bed for hours without it when I am depressed. I also take clonazapam to keep me asleep (2×5mg), but they don’t do much to help me get to sleep, I can take them during the day to chill out without getting drowsy. I find I need this from about November until April, which is my natural (?) cycle of sleep disruption from depression. I also take them from time to time during the rest of the year as needed. I have found them a little difficult to stop taking and have to stop slowly, cutting the dose over a couple weeks and being prepared to take longer to get to sleep at first. Hope this helps, take care. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey folks: I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well. Thanks, James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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I’ve used Imovane often, and found it to be an excellent sleep aid. In terms of sleep onset, you’ll feel a little fluffy 20 minutes or so after taking it (and you’ll get a bitter taste in your mouth) and when you go to bed, you’ll probably fall asleep instantly. The bitter taste, unfortunately, will linger into the next day.
Hi Renton, On the bitter taste that is left in your mouth after you take your Imovane. May I suggest you eat a banana, I kid you not. When I was put on Paxil, my doctor told me it might leave a metallicy taste in my mouth, which it did. She told me to eat a banana, and I found it helped. My mom was put on bioxin a few months ago, and complained of a bitter taste in her mouth, and I told her about the banana, and she claimed it helped. Of course…….YMMV Take Care!!! Jackie 
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Funny – I’m just about to go see a doc for something stronger than Imovane, since it doesn’t work. Neither does temazepam (Restoril) and I had a bad renton – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi James – I take one tablet every night for exactly the reason you mention – my pdoc describes it as a mild hypnotic, to allow me to fall asleep. I will lie in bed for hours without it when I am depressed. I also take clonazapam to keep me asleep (2×5mg), but they don’t do much to help me get to sleep, I can take them during the day to chill out without getting drowsy. I find I need this from about November until April, which is my natural (?) cycle of sleep disruption from depression. I also take them from time to time during the rest of the year as needed. I have found them a little difficult to stop taking and have to stop slowly, cutting the dose over a couple weeks and being prepared to take longer to get to sleep at first. Hope this helps, take care. Hey folks: I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well. Thanks, James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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I’ve used Imovane often, and found it to be an excellent sleep aid. In terms of sleep onset, you’ll feel a little fluffy 20 minutes or so after taking it (and you’ll get a bitter taste in your mouth) and when you go to bed, you’ll probably fall asleep instantly. The bitter taste, unfortunately, will linger into the next day. The problem I’ve encountered with Imovane is that it just doesn’t work for me any more. I think I might have developed a tolerance to it very quickly. The last time I got an Rx from Imovane, having taken a long break from it, I found myself taking 2, 3 even 4 pills with little if any effect. It could be just me. You mentioned using it on a long-term basis – I don’t think it’s indicated for that, unfortunately. You should talk to your doc anyway. I *wish* Imovane would work for me like it used to, because it was fantastic. I would hit the pillow and fall asleep right away. As a matter of fact, I’m going to see a doc today to find something that works for me, because I’ve tried just about everything – temazepam (Restoril), trazodone (Desyrel), and popping 5 of my clonazepam with 4 or 5 OTC sleep aids (which I liken to a 14-year-old doing Nyquil shooters) – and nothing works any more. I’m worried that my only hope now is barbiturates…. Give Imovane a try – it will work great for a while – but keep in mind that you might develop a rapid tolerance to it, and you’ll have to get used to a residual bitterness in your mouth. Good luck. renton – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey folks: I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well. Thanks, James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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Hey folks: I am looking for individuals response to the sleeping drug Imovane. I live in Canada, and Ambien is not available here, but Imovane, which I believe has a close chemical structure, is. Now, I don’t have drug insurance, and Imovane is just over a dollar a pill, so I want to make sure I am getting my money’s worth. My main problem is sleep ONSET, not waking up or disturbances, or anything like that. I have full intentions of using it regularly, as I have a number of benzo sleeping meds over the years (no problems with addiction or abuse….they just never did anything for me.) Anybody who uses it REGULARY, please email me if possible..as I would appreciate any response. Depression is not my problem, as I take Effexor XR 75mg’s which has looked after that VERY well. Thanks, James M. — When man is born, he is tender and weak. At death, he is stiff and hard. All things, the grass as well as trees, are tender and supple while alive. When dead, they are withered and dried. Therefore the stiff and hard are companions of death. The tender and the weak are companions of life. – Lao-Tzu
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