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My guess is immediate denial. I had it the day my mom stroked out. I think your mind feels if you don’t admit it, it can’t be happening. A defense mechanism to fight the onslaught of the world. :) Again, just a guess. Thanks, Jackie. I’m not sure why I don’t have any feelings about it. She does tend to jump the gun on things, though this does look pretty certain. All I can say is, I have a headache, and I’m stressin’ hard for no reason. Other than that, it’s not really affecting me. Ian

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – noticed a couple masses in her lungs and said, "Come back in three months, we’ll do another scan, and see if they’ve grown." Well, not surprisingly, they grew very rapidly. Now she has to go off her blood thinners for five days and get tested on Friday. One doctor had to get the word from another doctor that it was okay to go off the blood thinners, so that he didn’t suffer the liability in case her stent got blocked. Also, she has to get a blood test the day before the lungiotomy (or whatever) to determine that her blood is thick enough (again, to avoid liability.) So, a lot of doctors worried about liability, and not alarmed enough that my mom is probably about to die. I personally have no feelings about it right now. I constantly give her a hard time about it. She gives me a hard time about something, and I say, "Oh yeah? Well you’re about to die!" and then laugh maniacally. It makes her smile. I also asked her if I could have her Klonopin when she died. :-) But then again, I pretty much rely on her for everything. Every time I get stressed out by a problem, I call her up and ask her what to do. Plus when she’s up here, I try to get her to stay, because I need to have her around. So I’m guessing this will be pretty hard on me. She’s closer to me than anyone. She’s also saying it was probably my smoking around her that did it, and so that’s pretty hard to deal with. We won’t know until a week and a half if she does indeed have lung cancer, but it looks like she does. complained that I hadn’t seen a case manager in months and where was my check, etc., because my disability check hasn’t been cut by CMH yet, and it should have been yesterday. She called today to tell me she saw me two weeks ago and drew up a budget for the month. I was ready to file a complaint, that she was just covering her butt, lying bald-faced to me about seeing me, and counting on my bad memory … when my mom said yes, she had seen her, she had run into her in the elevator. So this counts as the first time I’ve had a *real* memory loss. I mean, I constantly forget things. People call me and I forget they called. I walk into a room and forget why I walked in. I forget if I took my meds. Etc. But this is the first time I’ve totally blanked out an entire experience. Cute feature story: I was at the Subway Subs place today and the people behind the counter were talking amongst themselves about how to beat a drug test that one of them had coming up. I chipped in with some advice, and we all had a Hallmark moment. It may not seem much to anyone else here … I mean, those of us who are addicts are recovering … but it was such a sweet moment between the three of us, to say, "We all know this secret world." Strange the things that make one smile. :-) Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedberg) http://sundry.ws/

Ian, I’m so sorry about your Mom. Perhaps the diagnosis will be such that treatment will work quickly and this will all be behind you. And it is always possible she doesn’t have cancer at all–my grandmother had what her doctors said was breast cancer–she had all the symptoms–and it turned out to be something else. I was positive she had it. As far as memory loss goes, stress (like your mother’s health) can really do a number on your memory. I lost an entire day a couple weeks back. I kid you not–I have no idea what I did on that day or where it went. That’s fun. Let us know what the diagnosis is when you get it. In the meantime, take it easy on yourself. (((((((((((((((((((((Ian)))))))))))))))))))))) Love, Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Keep up the good work.

Well, I’ll tell you, with all the stress I deal with every day, I’d love to have Calgon (i.e. reefer) take me away, far away, for a few years. I’m not at a place where I want to be sober, but I very wisely cut off contact with anyone who could hook me up, so that when the urge came, it couldn’t be satisfied. There’s a couple bars down the street, and a liquor store around the corner, but I don’t really like alcohol. My last using experience was a pint of cognac and a pint of kahlua, but that was just out of desperation. Alcohol doesn’t get you high. That’s why they call it getting drunk. They can’t call it getting high, because it’s not accurate. Every street drug can claim such a thing, because they actually work. None works as well as pot does, though. Maybe heroin, but I’ve tried maybe ten times to get heroin in my life, and have failed every time. God is clearly keeping me away from what would probably become my new drug of choice. And at this point, despite still wanting to use, I’m committed to staying sober, so I’ll probably never find out. You only have so many chits, and I think I used them up a long time ago. Ian — I’m sick of following my dreams. I’m just gonna ask where they’re goin’, and hook up with ‘em later. (Mitch Hedberg) http://sundry.ws/ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Ian, my heart goes out to you and your Mom.  This is so sad.  :-(  I just don’t know what to say.  I hope she will be alright.  {{{{{{{Ian & Mom}}}}}}}  Please keep us posted when you’re up to it. Love, Di

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – noticed a couple masses in her lungs and said, "Come back in three months, we’ll do another scan, and see if they’ve grown." Well, not surprisingly, they grew very rapidly. Now she has to go off her blood thinners for five days and get tested on Friday. One doctor had to get the word from another doctor that it was okay to go off the blood thinners, so that he didn’t suffer the liability in case her stent got blocked. Also, she has to get a blood test the day before the lungiotomy (or whatever) to determine that her blood is thick enough (again, to avoid liability.) So, a lot of doctors worried about liability, and not alarmed enough that my mom is probably about to die. I personally have no feelings about it right now. I constantly give her a hard time about it. She gives me a hard time about something, and I say, "Oh yeah? Well you’re about to die!" and then laugh maniacally. It makes her smile. I also asked her if I could have her Klonopin when she died. :-) But then again, I pretty much rely on her for everything. Every time I get stressed out by a problem, I call her up and ask her what to do. Plus when she’s up here, I try to get her to stay, because I need to have her around. So I’m guessing this will be pretty hard on me. She’s closer to me than anyone. She’s also saying it was probably my smoking around her that did it, and so that’s pretty hard to deal with. We won’t know until a week and a half if she does indeed have lung cancer, but it looks like she does. complained that I hadn’t seen a case manager in months and where was my check, etc., because my disability check hasn’t been cut by CMH yet, and it should have been yesterday. She called today to tell me she saw me two weeks ago and drew up a budget for the month. I was ready to file a complaint, that she was just covering her butt, lying bald-faced to me about seeing me, and counting on my bad memory … when my mom said yes, she had seen her, she had run into her in the elevator. So this counts as the first time I’ve had a *real* memory loss. I mean, I constantly forget things. People call me and I forget they called. I walk into a room and forget why I walked in. I forget if I took my meds. Etc. But this is the first time I’ve totally blanked out an entire experience. Cute feature story: I was at the Subway Subs place today and the people behind the counter were talking amongst themselves about how to beat a drug test that one of them had coming up. I chipped in with some advice, and we all had a Hallmark moment. It may not seem much to anyone else here … I mean, those of us who are addicts are recovering … but it was such a sweet moment between the three of us, to say, "We all know this secret world." Strange the things that make one smile. :-) Ian

– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – noticed a couple masses in her lungs and said, "Come back in three months, we’ll do another scan, and see if they’ve grown." Well, not surprisingly, they grew very rapidly. Now she has to go off her blood thinners for five days and get tested on Friday. One doctor had to get the word from another doctor that it was okay to go off the blood thinners, so that he didn’t suffer the liability in case her stent got blocked. Also, she has to get a blood test the day before the lungiotomy (or whatever) to determine that her blood is thick enough (again, to avoid liability.) So, a lot of doctors worried about liability, and not alarmed enough that my mom is probably about to die. I personally have no feelings about it right now. I constantly give her a hard time about it. She gives me a hard time about something, and I say, "Oh yeah? Well you’re about to die!" and then laugh maniacally. It makes her smile. I also asked her if I could have her Klonopin when she died. :-) But then again, I pretty much rely on her for everything. Every time I get stressed out by a problem, I call her up and ask her what to do. Plus when she’s up here, I try to get her to stay, because I need to have her around. So I’m guessing this will be pretty hard on me. She’s closer to me than anyone. She’s also saying it was probably my smoking around her that did it, and so that’s pretty hard to deal with. We won’t know until a week and a half if she does indeed have lung cancer, but it looks like she does. complained that I hadn’t seen a case manager in months and where was my check, etc., because my disability check hasn’t been cut by CMH yet, and it should have been yesterday. She called today to tell me she saw me two weeks ago and drew up a budget for the month. I was ready to file a complaint, that she was just covering her butt, lying bald-faced to me about seeing me, and counting on my bad memory … when my mom said yes, she had seen her, she had run into her in the elevator. So this counts as the first time I’ve had a *real* memory loss. I mean, I constantly forget things. People call me and I forget they called. I walk into a room and forget why I walked in. I forget if I took my meds. Etc. But this is the first time I’ve totally blanked out an entire experience. Cute feature story: I was at the Subway Subs place today and the people behind the counter were talking amongst themselves about how to beat a drug test that one of them had coming up. I chipped in with some advice, and we all had a Hallmark moment. It may not seem much to anyone else here … I mean, those of us who are addicts are recovering … but it was such a sweet moment between the three of us, to say, "We all know this secret world." Strange the things that make one smile. :-)

{{{{{Ian and Mum}}}}} Very sad news Ian. You are both in my thoughts and wishing you all the best in dealing with this. Vanessa — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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noticed a couple masses in her lungs and said, "Come back in three months, we’ll do another scan, and see if they’ve grown." Well, not surprisingly, they grew very rapidly. Now she has to go off her blood thinners for five days and get tested on Friday. One doctor had to get the word from another doctor that it was okay to go off the blood thinners, so that he didn’t suffer the liability in case her stent got blocked. Also, she has to get a blood test the day before the lungiotomy (or whatever) to determine that her blood is thick enough (again, to avoid liability.) So, a lot of doctors worried about liability, and not alarmed enough that my mom is probably about to die.

I’m so sorry to hear this, Ian.  The next time you see your mom, please give her a huge hug. kili — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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<gently snipped ::PS — As of ten minutes ago, I have four months sober. :-) Congrats Ian. That IS some accomplishment. Keep up the good work. Jackie    ~`v

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I am so very sorry to hear about your situation, I wish I had the answer for you but I don’t, only you could know. My heart goes out to you and I wish you the best in your current situation.maybe looking into meds is a GREAT idea! Sometimes when everything happens all at once we just feel so overwhelmed that we just blame ourselves first instead of thinking clearly about all that is going on. Take it one problem and one day at a time(easier said then done) but try it does help. PEACE & HARMONY, Jackie "peacepipe" <mmfu…@yahoo.com

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yep. you are depressed. at least you recognize it now. people get so

used to > > it, they cant tell the difference after awhile. > > "peacepipe" <mmfu…@yahoo.com

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> > news:60f28fe2.0402172333.654847ef@posting.google.com… > > > I feel like absolute crap.  I’m at a crossroads in my life, I just > > > graduated colleged and I’m looking to go to grad school but the > > > application process is really hard for me for some reason.  It looms > > > over me like an insurmountable task that I will never complete.  I > > > moved in with a friend of mine who i am living with far away from home > > > (i’ve been here for half a year)  I don’t know if we get along or not, > > > it’s wierd.  I always feel bad like i’m not a good friend and not good > > > company to him.  and the thing that kills me the most is I feel like > > > he’s lost all his friends since I started living with him.  I don’t > > > know how to explain it and I’m sure it’s paranoid but I feel > > > responsible for it somehow.  It’s not true though, i know it.  there > > > was one guy who he was fighting with before i came out here and now > > > they’re not really friends anymore.  I know it’s not my fault but i > > > feel like his pain is my pain too, if he bleeds I bleed and I feel > > > responsible for it.  Things with my girlfriend are going south too. > > > She’s so the perfect girl and everything I’ve been looking for but > > > there’s one problem, I don’t like her.  I don’t really like talking to > > > her all that much, she’s mostly just become a bother and I’m not > > > appreciating her but at the same time when i think about breaking up > > > with her i get sad because i can feel myself missing her.  She’s so > > > nice and sweet but there’s something missing.  I always feel so > > > guilty, i’m sure it’s just my depression but god damn, it’s wierd how > > > mental disease changes the world.  I should be happy, but I’m not. > > > I’ve got some things that I always wanted and I’m somewhat stable > > > psychologicaly because i’ve kind of been forced into socializing since > > > i have a roomate now, but the depression is like a ball and chain, I > > > think i might look into some meds. > thanks for the support juno

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"Lost Soul" <lmaor…@nowhere.com

wrote in message <news:gib3c.5179$KB.3639@twister.nyroc.rr.com… I am so very sorry to hear about your situation, I wish I had the answer for you but I don’t, only you could know. My heart goes out to you and I wish you the best in your current situation.maybe looking into meds is a GREAT idea! Sometimes when everything happens all at once we just feel so overwhelmed that we just blame ourselves first instead of thinking clearly about all that is going on. Take it one problem and one day at a time(easier said then done) but try it does help. PEACE & HARMONY, Jackie

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 I feel like absolute crap.  I’m at a crossroads in my life, I just  graduated colleged and I’m looking to go to grad school but the  application process is really hard for me for some reason.  It looms  over me like an insurmountable task that I will never complete.  I  moved in with a friend of mine who i am living with far away from home  (i’ve been here for half a year)  I don’t know if we get along or not,  it’s wierd.  I always feel bad like i’m not a good friend and not good  company to him.  and the thing that kills me the most is I feel like  he’s lost all his friends since I started living with him.  I don’t  know how to explain it and I’m sure it’s paranoid but I feel  responsible for it somehow.  It’s not true though, i know it.  there  was one guy who he was fighting with before i came out here and now  they’re not really friends anymore.  I know it’s not my fault but i  feel like his pain is my pain too, if he bleeds I bleed and I feel  responsible for it.  Things with my girlfriend are going south too.  She’s so the perfect girl and everything I’ve been looking for but  there’s one problem, I don’t like her.  I don’t really like talking to  her all that much, she’s mostly just become a bother and I’m not  appreciating her but at the same time when i think about breaking up  with her i get sad because i can feel myself missing her.  She’s so  nice and sweet but there’s something missing.  I always feel so  guilty, i’m sure it’s just my depression but god damn, it’s wierd how  mental disease changes the world.  I should be happy, but I’m not.  I’ve got some things that I always wanted and I’m somewhat stable  psychologicaly because i’ve kind of been forced into socializing since  i have a roomate now, but the depression is like a ball and chain, I  think i might look into some meds.

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wrote in message <news:cpAZb.19459$wD5.1187@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… yep. you are depressed. at least you recognize it now. people get so used to it, they cant tell the difference after awhile. "peacepipe" <mmfu…@yahoo.com wrote in message news:60f28fe2.0402172333.654847ef@posting.google.com… I feel like absolute crap.  I’m at a crossroads in my life, I just graduated colleged and I’m looking to go to grad school but the application process is really hard for me for some reason.  It looms over me like an insurmountable task that I will never complete.  I moved in with a friend of mine who i am living with far away from home (i’ve been here for half a year)  I don’t know if we get along or not, it’s wierd.  I always feel bad like i’m not a good friend and not good company to him.  and the thing that kills me the most is I feel like he’s lost all his friends since I started living with him.  I don’t know how to explain it and I’m sure it’s paranoid but I feel responsible for it somehow.  It’s not true though, i know it.  there was one guy who he was fighting with before i came out here and now they’re not really friends anymore.  I know it’s not my fault but i feel like his pain is my pain too, if he bleeds I bleed and I feel responsible for it.  Things with my girlfriend are going south too. She’s so the perfect girl and everything I’ve been looking for but there’s one problem, I don’t like her.  I don’t really like talking to her all that much, she’s mostly just become a bother and I’m not appreciating her but at the same time when i think about breaking up with her i get sad because i can feel myself missing her.  She’s so nice and sweet but there’s something missing.  I always feel so guilty, i’m sure it’s just my depression but god damn, it’s wierd how mental disease changes the world.  I should be happy, but I’m not. I’ve got some things that I always wanted and I’m somewhat stable psychologicaly because i’ve kind of been forced into socializing since i have a roomate now, but the depression is like a ball and chain, I think i might look into some meds.

thanks for the support juno

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wrote in message <news:45Q25OACc2RAFwWT@mtdomain.demon.co.uk… robertmaasjr <grigoru…@yahoo.com Bubbleghost <B…@sorry.no.e-mail wrote in message <news:CC7IHMAsmtRAFwje@mtdomai n.demon.co.uk… robertmaasjr <grigoru…@yahoo.com apostrophes denote the possessive. Apostrophes are not used for the possessive of the word it. The word  it’s  has an apostrophe only if it is to represent the contraction of  it is.   The apostrophe is omitted in that particular word’s possessive. Spend a lesson teaching children about possessives and then watch them shower apostrophes over everything by the bucketful :( I made it through university without knowing punctuation. I don’t recall ever having punctuation corrected in university. I’ve never put an apostrophe at the end of a word eg schools’ . i alway say "anymore". never say "any more". i spell "definitely" right, unlike most people. I’m not going to bite, it’s too obvious.

very few people on the net comment on punctuation because i doubt if they know themselves. for some reason, people perceive me to be a troll and seem to demand that my spelling be perfect.

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Bubbleghost <B…@sorry.no.e-mail

wrote in message <news:CC7IHMAsmtRAFwje@mtdomain.demon.co.uk… robertmaasjr <grigoru…@yahoo.com apostrophes denote the possessive. Apostrophes are not used for the possessive of the word it. The word  it’s  has an apostrophe only if it is to represent the contraction of  it is.   The apostrophe is omitted in that particular word’s possessive. Spend a lesson teaching children about possessives and then watch them shower apostrophes over everything by the bucketful :(

I made it through university without knowing punctuation. I don’t recall ever having punctuation corrected in university. I’ve never put an apostrophe at the end of a word eg schools’ . i alway say "anymore". never say "any more". i spell "definitely" right, unlike most people.

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robertmaasjr <grigoru…@yahoo.com

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>> >apostrophes denote the possessive. >> Apostrophes are not used for the possessive of the word it. >> The word  it’s  has an apostrophe only if it is to represent the >> contraction of  it is.   >> The apostrophe is omitted in that particular word’s possessive. >> Spend a lesson teaching children about possessives and then watch them >> shower apostrophes over everything by the bucketful :( >I made it through university without knowing punctuation. I don’t >recall ever having punctuation corrected in university. I’ve never put >an apostrophe at the end of a word eg schools’ . i alway say >"anymore". never say "any more". >i spell "definitely" right, unlike most people.

I’m not going to bite, it’s too obvious. — Bubbleghost

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robertmaasjr <grigoru…@yahoo.com

depression  ought not be blamed on everything.

Depression is blamed on a reduction in the efficacy of the Central Nervous System due to low levels of essential neurotransmitters. I wouldn’t dream of blaming you for *that*.

depression is it’s own cure.

However, I *would* blame you for moronic comments like that one. If a medical condition is a cure for itself, then it couldn’t exist! You sound like the idiotic new GP I have who thinks that because ECT used to be a last resort treatment for depression, then people with epilepsy won’t get clinical depression because their seizures will prevent them. So he reduced my anti-depressants even though the anticonvulsants are also CNS depressants. Within three days I put the dose back up. PS. Buy yourself a punctuation book and learn how to spell * its * if you want to appear intelligent. Then go troll elsewhere. — Bubbleghost

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -grigoru…@yahoo.com (robertmaasjr) wrote in message <news:33338fd6.0403020217.5a3a79a9@posting.google.com

… "Mr B" <graymountgraft…@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message <news:LQ2_b.711$396.369@newsfe3-win.server.ntli.net… "juno7" <NoOneYouK…@aol.com wrote in message news:cpAZb.19459$wD5.1187@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… yep. you are depressed. at least you recognize it now. people get so used  to it, they cant tell the difference after awhile. That puts ‘peacepipe’ in front. Knowing the problem is halfway to sorting the problem. No-matter how much help you receive for these conditions, at the end of the day it is you yourself who gets it all sorted or **just go with the flow**, which is a bad idea. I have been having these problems for near 5 years after a breakdown and it is only lately that I am starting to put things into prospective. It is a long haul my friend and it takes a lot of balls to face up to situations. Get help, let your friends know how you feel and get support from them. Any services going about for the likes of depression, get in touch. While your doing this be your own master. Do what you think is the proper way to deal with things. At the end of the day (and a long haul) you can get your life sorted. Best wishes peacepipe depression  ought not be blamed on everything. depression is it’s own cure.

interesting.  i think i agree with this somewhat.  sometimes i think we say we’re working things out to give ourselves the illusion of control, not that grig is saying this at all, i agree with everything in the post.  What do you mean by "depression is it’s own cure?"  My interpretation of it is this: not accepting a part of yourself, whatever part that may be is the only problem.  It’s one thing to have insecurities, it’s another thing to be insecure about them…  this interpretation may be completely wrong.

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wrote in message <news:3DsV3NAyTMRAFwVm@mtdomain.demon.co.uk… robertmaasjr <grigoru…@yahoo.com depression  ought not be blamed on everything. Depression is blamed on a reduction in the efficacy of the Central Nervous System due to low levels of essential neurotransmitters. I wouldn’t dream of blaming you for *that*. depression is it’s own cure. However, I *would* blame you for moronic comments like that one. If a medical condition is a cure for itself, then it couldn’t exist! You sound like the idiotic new GP I have who thinks that because ECT used to be a last resort treatment for depression, then people with epilepsy won’t get clinical depression because their seizures will prevent them. So he reduced my anti-depressants even though the anticonvulsants are also CNS depressants. Within three days I put the dose back up. PS. Buy yourself a punctuation book and learn how to spell * its * if you want to appear intelligent. Then go troll elsewhere.

ect, jogging, and anything else painful fights depression in the long-term. naturally, if you reduce the dose of a happiness pill , you will suffer withdrawl. i almost enjoy depression because i know that it is creating the conditions that are necessary for me to be happy in the future. happiness pills cause depression eg, sugar, fat, cocaine, caffeine, morphine, ssri’s, etc why are you so aggitated, unless you fear i am right? you really are a nazi. btw, i’m not jewish like morey so calm down. apostrophes denote the possessive.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -mmfu…@yahoo.com (peacepipe) wrote in message <news:60f28fe2.0403021228.4c4763c6@posting.google.com

… grigoru…@yahoo.com (robertmaasjr) wrote in message <news:33338fd6.0403020217.5a3a79a9@posting.google.com… "Mr B" <graymountgraft…@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message <news:LQ2_b.711$396.369@newsfe3-win.server.ntli.net… "juno7" <NoOneYouK…@aol.com wrote in message news:cpAZb.19459$wD5.1187@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… yep. you are depressed. at least you recognize it now. people get so used  to it, they cant tell the difference after awhile. That puts ‘peacepipe’ in front. Knowing the problem is halfway to sorting the problem. No-matter how much help you receive for these conditions, at the end of the day it is you yourself who gets it all sorted or **just go with the flow**, which is a bad idea. I have been having these problems for near 5 years after a breakdown and it is only lately that I am starting to put things into prospective. It is a long haul my friend and it takes a lot of balls to face up to situations. Get help, let your friends know how you feel and get support from them. Any services going about for the likes of depression, get in touch. While your doing this be your own master. Do what you think is the proper way to deal with things. At the end of the day (and a long haul) you can get your life sorted. Best wishes peacepipe depression  ought not be blamed on everything. depression is it’s own cure. interesting.  i think i agree with this somewhat.  sometimes i think we say we’re working things out to give ourselves the illusion of control, not that grig is saying this at all, i agree with everything in the post.  What do you mean by "depression is it’s own cure?"  My interpretation of it is this: not accepting a part of yourself, whatever part that may be is the only problem.  It’s one thing to have insecurities, it’s another thing to be insecure about them…  this interpretation may be completely wrong.

depression is relative. there is a constantly changing benchmark which determines if you will experience a particular sensation as happy or depressed. if you eat steak every day, it will not get you high, but if you eat steak after eating hamburger for years, you will really be happy. if you jog or receive ect this adjusts the benchmark down, making it easier to feel happy. it is no surprise that the people who suffer the most are the happiest. depression is a rich person’s disease. and we are all rich in western society. our lives are very easy as far as basic needs. if happiness was absolute , the high we get from something like cocaine would at least boost our mood in the long-term , but it does the opposite. ssri’s play with long-term happiness cycles and are a shell game. if you experience withdrawl when you stop taking them, the doctors take this as proof that they are necessary. pretty sad.

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apostrophes denote the possessive.

Apostrophes are not used for the possessive of the word it. The word  it’s  has an apostrophe only if it is to represent the contraction of  it is.   The apostrophe is omitted in that particular word’s possessive. Spend a lesson teaching children about possessives and then watch them shower apostrophes over everything by the bucketful :( — Bubbleghost

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yep. you are depressed. at least you recognize it now. people get so used

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it, they cant tell the difference after awhile.

That puts ‘peacepipe’ in front. Knowing the problem is halfway to sorting the problem. No-matter how much help you receive for these conditions, at the end of the day it is you yourself who gets it all sorted or **just go with the flow**, which is a bad idea. I have been having these problems for near 5 years after a breakdown and it is only lately that I am starting to put things into prospective. It is a long haul my friend and it takes a lot of balls to face up to situations. Get help, let your friends know how you feel and get support from them. Any services going about for the likes of depression, get in touch. While your doing this be your own master. Do what you think is the proper way to deal with things. At the end of the day (and a long haul) you can get your life sorted. Best wishes peacepipe

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wrote in message <news:LQ2_b.711$396.369@newsfe3-win.server.ntli.net… "juno7" <NoOneYouK…@aol.com wrote in message news:cpAZb.19459$wD5.1187@nwrddc03.gnilink.net… yep. you are depressed. at least you recognize it now. people get so used  to it, they cant tell the difference after awhile. That puts ‘peacepipe’ in front. Knowing the problem is halfway to sorting the problem. No-matter how much help you receive for these conditions, at the end of the day it is you yourself who gets it all sorted or **just go with the flow**, which is a bad idea. I have been having these problems for near 5 years after a breakdown and it is only lately that I am starting to put things into prospective. It is a long haul my friend and it takes a lot of balls to face up to situations. Get help, let your friends know how you feel and get support from them. Any services going about for the likes of depression, get in touch. While your doing this be your own master. Do what you think is the proper way to deal with things. At the end of the day (and a long haul) you can get your life sorted. Best wishes peacepipe

depression  ought not be blamed on everything. depression is it’s own cure.

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yep. you are depressed. at least you recognize it now. people get so used to it, they cant tell the difference after awhile. "peacepipe" <mmfu…@yahoo.com

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I feel like absolute crap.  I’m at a crossroads in my life, I just graduated colleged and I’m looking to go to grad school but the application process is really hard for me for some reason.  It looms over me like an insurmountable task that I will never complete.  I moved in with a friend of mine who i am living with far away from home (i’ve been here for half a year)  I don’t know if we get along or not, it’s wierd.  I always feel bad like i’m not a good friend and not good company to him.  and the thing that kills me the most is I feel like he’s lost all his friends since I started living with him.  I don’t know how to explain it and I’m sure it’s paranoid but I feel responsible for it somehow.  It’s not true though, i know it.  there was one guy who he was fighting with before i came out here and now they’re not really friends anymore.  I know it’s not my fault but i feel like his pain is my pain too, if he bleeds I bleed and I feel responsible for it.  Things with my girlfriend are going south too. She’s so the perfect girl and everything I’ve been looking for but there’s one problem, I don’t like her.  I don’t really like talking to her all that much, she’s mostly just become a bother and I’m not appreciating her but at the same time when i think about breaking up with her i get sad because i can feel myself missing her.  She’s so nice and sweet but there’s something missing.  I always feel so guilty, i’m sure it’s just my depression but god damn, it’s wierd how mental disease changes the world.  I should be happy, but I’m not. I’ve got some things that I always wanted and I’m somewhat stable psychologicaly because i’ve kind of been forced into socializing since i have a roomate now, but the depression is like a ball and chain, I think i might look into some meds.

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I feel like absolute crap.  I’m at a crossroads in my life, I just graduated colleged and I’m looking to go to grad school but the application process is really hard for me for some reason.  It looms over me like an insurmountable task that I will never complete.  I moved in with a friend of mine who i am living with far away from home (i’ve been here for half a year)  I don’t know if we get along or not, it’s wierd.  I always feel bad like i’m not a good friend and not good company to him.  and the thing that kills me the most is I feel like he’s lost all his friends since I started living with him.  I don’t know how to explain it and I’m sure it’s paranoid but I feel responsible for it somehow.  It’s not true though, i know it.  there was one guy who he was fighting with before i came out here and now they’re not really friends anymore.  I know it’s not my fault but i feel like his pain is my pain too, if he bleeds I bleed and I feel responsible for it.  Things with my girlfriend are going south too. She’s so the perfect girl and everything I’ve been looking for but there’s one problem, I don’t like her.  I don’t really like talking to her all that much, she’s mostly just become a bother and I’m not appreciating her but at the same time when i think about breaking up with her i get sad because i can feel myself missing her.  She’s so nice and sweet but there’s something missing.  I always feel so guilty, i’m sure it’s just my depression but god damn, it’s wierd how mental disease changes the world.  I should be happy, but I’m not. I’ve got some things that I always wanted and I’m somewhat stable psychologicaly because i’ve kind of been forced into socializing since i have a roomate now, but the depression is like a ball and chain, I think i might look into some meds.

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Lost comm altitude?

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Sure the altitudes amend the Dutchess Four clearance itself, but not the clearence’s explicit lost-comm procedure.  That would only be amended if ATC issued explicit lost-comm altitudes too.

But when ATC tells you "Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10," isn’t "expect 4000" explicitly for lost-comm?  From the AIM: EXPECT (ALTITUDE) AT (TIME) or (FIX)- Used under certain conditions to provide a pilot with an altitude to be used in the event of two-way communications failure. It also provides altitude information to assist the pilot in planning. Barry

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I’d climb to 5000, then MEAs permitting) descend to 4000.  In no case would I stop before 5000.  The (explicit) instructions to do so on lost comm may be to get you high enough to receive a different outlet, or to be picked up on a better radar sweep.  Who knows… they asked me to do that, I do that. Jose — (for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Dutchess Four Departure has lost comm instructions which read, "If radio contact is not established/lost for more than two minutes after departing, proceed on course and climb to 5000 feet.  Ten minutes after departure, climb to requested altitude/flight level". Let’s say my clearance is "Cleared to HPN via Dutchess Four, V157, HAARP, direct.  Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10".  If I go lost comm, do they expect me to climb to 5000, stay there for 10 minutes, then descend back down to 4000?  Or stop my climb at 4000?  Or climb to 5000 and stay there (which would presumably leave me WAFDOF). I’m inclined to think stopping my climb at 4000 makes the most sense, but one could make arguments in support of any of the alternatives. I would do exactly as the chart states and not try to second-guess the reasons.  (Except that after ten minutes, to get from 5000 to 4000 obviously requires a descent).

Well, descending when told to climb is itself a kind of second-guessing of the chart’s intent–and to me it waves a rather bright red flag! –Gary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Certainly if you climbed to 5000 when cleared to 4000, that would also serve to get ATC’s attention, and might lead to sooner establishment of radio contact. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

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I’d climb to 5000, then MEAs permitting) descend to 4000.  In no case would I stop before 5000.  The (explicit) instructions to do so on lost comm may be to get you high enough to receive a different outlet, or to be picked up on a better radar sweep.  Who knows… they asked me to do that, I do that.

Is this one of those Radar Vectors departures?   5000 feet might be required to allow you to get "on course" via your own navigation in lieu of radar vectors.

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Well, descending when told to climb is itself a kind of second-guessing of the chart’s intent–and to me it waves a rather bright red flag!

How long do you think you would have to climb to get from 5,000′ MSL to 4,000′ MSL?  <g It probably depends in part on your theory of the universe. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

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Well, descending when told to climb is itself a kind of second-guessing of the chart’s intent–and to me it waves a rather bright red flag! How long do you think you would have to climb to get from 5,000′ MSL to 4,000′ MSL?  <g It probably depends in part on your theory of the universe.

Yup.  The mathematician in me wants to regard a descent as just a negative-rate climb, but the pilot in me balks. :) –Gary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

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The Dutchess Four Departure has lost comm instructions which read, "If radio contact is not established/lost for more than two minutes after departing, proceed on course and climb to 5000 feet.  Ten minutes after departure, climb to requested altitude/flight level". Let’s say my clearance is "Cleared to HPN via Dutchess Four, V157, HAARP, direct.  Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10".  If I go lost comm, do they expect me to climb to 5000, stay there for 10 minutes, then descend back down to 4000?  Or stop my climb at 4000?  Or climb to 5000 and stay there (which would presumably leave me WAFDOF). I’m inclined to think stopping my climb at 4000 makes the most sense, but one could make arguments in support of any of the alternatives.

I would do exactly as the chart states and not try to second-guess the reasons.  (Except that after ten minutes, to get from 5000 to 4000 obviously requires a descent). Certainly if you climbed to 5000 when cleared to 4000, that would also serve to get ATC’s attention, and might lead to sooner establishment of radio contact. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Dutchess Four Departure has lost comm instructions which read, "If radio contact is not established/lost for more than two minutes after departing, proceed on course and climb to 5000 feet.  Ten minutes after departure, climb to requested altitude/flight level". Let’s say my clearance is "Cleared to HPN via Dutchess Four, V157, HAARP, direct.  Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10".  If I go lost comm, do they expect me to climb to 5000, stay there for 10 minutes, then descend back down to 4000?  Or stop my climb at 4000?  Or climb to 5000 and stay there (which would presumably leave me WAFDOF). I would say that the altitudes you were issued constitute an amendment to the Dutchess Four clearance, so I’d stop at 3000, intercept V157, then climb to 4000 10 minutes after takeoff.

Sure the altitudes amend the Dutchess Four clearance itself, but not the clearence’s explicit lost-comm procedure.  That would only be amended if ATC issued explicit lost-comm altitudes too. –Gary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I was nervous about terrain, then I’d use my emergency authority to go to whatever altitude I felt was necessary, and then back to 4000 once established on V157. Related question: looking at the approach plates for POU, I see that the VOR/DME RNAV or GPS RWY 6 shows no MSA.  Does anyone know why?  All the other approaches to POU show an MSA circle. Barry

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Sure the altitudes amend the Dutchess Four clearance itself, but not the clearence’s explicit lost-comm procedure.  That would only be amended if ATC issued explicit lost-comm altitudes too. But when ATC tells you "Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10," isn’t "expect 4000" explicitly for lost-comm?  From the AIM:

Hm, yes, that’s a good point.  But then "maintain 3000" isn’t for lost comm. So I guess the most literal (but not the most sensible) interpretation would be to climb to 5000′ as per the explicit Dutchess Four lost-comm procedure, then descend to 4000′ as per the overriding "expect 4000 after 10".  Or something like that. :)

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Related question: looking at the approach plates for POU, I see that the VOR/DME RNAV or GPS RWY 6 shows no MSA.  Does anyone know why?  All the other approaches to POU show an MSA circle.

The Jepp chart states that no MSA is published for this approach. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

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The Dutchess Four Departure has lost comm instructions which read, "If radio contact is not established/lost for more than two minutes after departing, proceed on course and climb to 5000 feet.  Ten minutes after departure, climb to requested altitude/flight level". Let’s say my clearance is "Cleared to HPN via Dutchess Four, V157, HAARP, direct.  Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10".  If I go lost comm, do they expect me to climb to 5000, stay there for 10 minutes, then descend back down to 4000?  Or stop my climb at 4000?  Or climb to 5000 and stay there (which would presumably leave me WAFDOF).

I would say that the altitudes you were issued constitute an amendment to the Dutchess Four clearance, so I’d stop at 3000, intercept V157, then climb to 4000 10 minutes after takeoff.  If I was nervous about terrain, then I’d use my emergency authority to go to whatever altitude I felt was necessary, and then back to 4000 once established on V157. Related question: looking at the approach plates for POU, I see that the VOR/DME RNAV or GPS RWY 6 shows no MSA.  Does anyone know why?  All the other approaches to POU show an MSA circle. Barry

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Dutchess Four Departure has lost comm instructions which read, "If radio contact is not established/lost for more than two minutes after departing, proceed on course and climb to 5000 feet.  Ten minutes after departure, climb to requested altitude/flight level". Let’s say my clearance is "Cleared to HPN via Dutchess Four, V157, HAARP, direct.  Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10".  If I go lost comm, do they expect me to climb to 5000, stay there for 10 minutes, then descend back down to 4000?  Or stop my climb at 4000?  Or climb to 5000 and stay there (which would presumably leave me WAFDOF). I’m inclined to think stopping my climb at 4000 makes the most sense, but one could make arguments in support of any of the alternatives. The OROCA is 4700.  5 miles to the west, the OROCA goes up to 6700.  MEA on V157 is 4000, MOCA is 2700.

Heh, that’s a nice dilemma.  The instructions are contradictory enough that there isn’t anything you can do that would assure that you’re doing what ATC expects.  So I’d vote for climbing to 5000′ (since at least that part of the directive is unambiguous), and then staying there (since there’s no clear directive to descend, and other things being equal, higher is better).  I would hope and expect that ATC would at least clear a block for you from 3000 to 5000 to cover the plausible interpretations. –Gary

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The Dutchess Four Departure has lost comm instructions which read, "If radio contact is not established/lost for more than two minutes after departing, proceed on course and climb to 5000 feet.  Ten minutes after departure, climb to requested altitude/flight level". Let’s say my clearance is "Cleared to HPN via Dutchess Four, V157, HAARP, direct.  Maintain 3000, expect 4000 after 10".  If I go lost comm, do they expect me to climb to 5000, stay there for 10 minutes, then descend back down to 4000?  Or stop my climb at 4000?  Or climb to 5000 and stay there (which would presumably leave me WAFDOF). I’m inclined to think stopping my climb at 4000 makes the most sense, but one could make arguments in support of any of the alternatives. The OROCA is 4700.  5 miles to the west, the OROCA goes up to 6700.  MEA on V157 is 4000, MOCA is 2700.

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Disembarcation at Miami very slow yesterday

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From what I understand the traffic tie-ups are a common occurrence for the Miami seaport.  It’s just something they live with.,

Regular traffic is indeed slow – but 1 1/2 hours to leave the port?  How dreadful to end a relaxing cruise like that.  Of course, attitude is everything, so thinking it is a problem is, well, half the problem. Chris

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We were on that cruise…. Had white tickets for early disembarkation. We got off the ship at 7:AM & yes we noticed the immigration was a bit slow , but attributed it to people who don’t have passports but a bunch of papers. We live 30 mins from the pier & my neighbor picked me up at 7:30 We were home about 8:00, In 64 cruises it was the fastest ever.

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The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes.

You are right, it was very slow in May.   He questioned me about how often I travel and he asked me if I had ever been arrested.  Why do they care how often I travel, and why do they collect this information on American citizens?  Then, he stamped my Customs form, differently from the others, so I had to go elsewhere to be questioned again.  Something about this makes me feel uneasy.  I will use my birth certificate in the future.   Becca  <—–thinks our government has gone too far… Paradise http://www.cruisemaster.com/psfgc.htm Norwegian Dawn http://www.cruisemaster.com/dawn.htm Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm

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In the case of our disembarkation from Voyager, using 1 minute per guest, that would work out to slightly over two days…..Yeah, I’d say that would be a bit much!! I’ve discussed my wonderful memories of Voyager disembarkation elsewhere in this forum. McT

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. So, approximately one minute per person is too long?? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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The line is always the quickest for those in front. McT

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We were on that cruise…. Had white tickets for early disembarkation. We got off the ship at 7:AM & yes we noticed the immigration was a bit slow , but attributed it to people who don’t have passports but a bunch of papers. We live 30 mins from the pier & my neighbor picked me up at 7:30 We were home about 8:00, In 64 cruises it was the fastest ever.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

It’s too bad that the memorial service for the Grand Dame of Salsa music and multiple Grammy Award winner CELIA Cruz made it difficult for you to leave the port.  It must have been a terrible inconvenience.  I feel your pain and admire your fortitude in the face of such overwhelming adversity.  You are an inspiration to us all.  Life can really be tough sometimes, eh? "No-body knows the trouble I’ve seen, "No-body knows but Je-sus…" Sigh. Skip  <—–a decades-long admirer and fan of Celia Cruz, whom he misses terribly

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s too bad that the memorial service for the Grand Dame of Salsa music and multiple Grammy Award winner CELIA Cruz made it difficult for you to leave the port.  It must have been a terrible inconvenience.  I feel your pain and admire your fortitude in the face of such overwhelming adversity.  You are an inspiration to us all.  Life can really be tough sometimes, eh? "No-body knows the trouble I’ve seen, "No-body knows but Je-sus…" Sigh. Skip  <—–a decades-long admirer and fan of Celia Cruz, whom he misses terribly

Perhaps you don’t understand.  Yes, she was a huge star. She was lying in state at the Freedom Tower and there were 50-75,000 people who visited her during the day – the lines started well before midnight the day before. Streets were closed, there was NO WAY to get out of the port without running in to the closures.  Now, let’s re-consider….what if there had been an emergency and an evacuation of the port was necessary?   City officials, knowing there is a turnover of however many thousands of passengers during the day, should have had better traffic management. Chris

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From what I understand the traffic tie-ups are a common occurrence for the Miami seaport.  It’s just something they live with.,

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s too bad that the memorial service for the Grand Dame of Salsa music and multiple Grammy Award winner CELIA Cruz made it difficult for you to leave the port.  It must have been a terrible inconvenience.  I feel your pain and admire your fortitude in the face of such overwhelming adversity.  You are an inspiration to us all.  Life can really be tough sometimes, eh? "No-body knows the trouble I’ve seen, "No-body knows but Je-sus…" Sigh. Skip  <—–a decades-long admirer and fan of Celia Cruz, whom he misses terribly Perhaps you don’t understand.  Yes, she was a huge star. She was lying in state at the Freedom Tower and there were 50-75,000 people who visited her during the day – the lines started well before midnight the day before. Streets were closed, there was NO WAY to get out of the port without running in to the closures.  Now, let’s re-consider….what if there had been an emergency and an evacuation of the port was necessary?   City officials, knowing there is a turnover of however many thousands of passengers during the day, should have had better traffic management. Chris

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration.

Typical ime.

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. So, approximately one minute per person is too long?? — Ray

Ray, With eight inspectors I believe that 6.25 minutes per person. And yes, that would be too long. Jeff

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25.

Jeff

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With four in our group it took almost five minutes to get through and I had the four passports opened to the proper pages already. That was rediculous. No words or questions exchanged – only the passport reader and computer. Swipe the passport slowly, wait for the computer, read the screen, type a few strokes, look at he picture. Next…. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. Jeff

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Last Oct. we disembarked at 9:15 AM & were the last persons to get off the ship. (we were in no hurry)  I thought that was our fastest disembarcation we’ve ever had.  IMO the immigration people are doing a faster & more through job than they have in all the years I’ve been cruising.  Perhaps you should book one of the owners suites so you could be first off the ship.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25.

So, approximately one minute per person is too long?? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25.

So, approximately one minute per person is too long?? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration.

Typical ime.

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. So, approximately one minute per person is too long?? — Ray

Ray, With eight inspectors I believe that 6.25 minutes per person. And yes, that would be too long. Jeff

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Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25.

Jeff

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With four in our group it took almost five minutes to get through and I had the four passports opened to the proper pages already. That was rediculous. No words or questions exchanged – only the passport reader and computer. Swipe the passport slowly, wait for the computer, read the screen, type a few strokes, look at he picture. Next…. Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. Jeff

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Last Oct. we disembarked at 9:15 AM & were the last persons to get off the ship. (we were in no hurry)  I thought that was our fastest disembarcation we’ve ever had.  IMO the immigration people are doing a faster & more through job than they have in all the years I’ve been cruising.  Perhaps you should book one of the owners suites so you could be first off the ship.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

It’s too bad that the memorial service for the Grand Dame of Salsa music and multiple Grammy Award winner CELIA Cruz made it difficult for you to leave the port.  It must have been a terrible inconvenience.  I feel your pain and admire your fortitude in the face of such overwhelming adversity.  You are an inspiration to us all.  Life can really be tough sometimes, eh? "No-body knows the trouble I’ve seen, "No-body knows but Je-sus…" Sigh. Skip  <—–a decades-long admirer and fan of Celia Cruz, whom he misses terribly

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s too bad that the memorial service for the Grand Dame of Salsa music and multiple Grammy Award winner CELIA Cruz made it difficult for you to leave the port.  It must have been a terrible inconvenience.  I feel your pain and admire your fortitude in the face of such overwhelming adversity.  You are an inspiration to us all.  Life can really be tough sometimes, eh? "No-body knows the trouble I’ve seen, "No-body knows but Je-sus…" Sigh. Skip  <—–a decades-long admirer and fan of Celia Cruz, whom he misses terribly

Perhaps you don’t understand.  Yes, she was a huge star. She was lying in state at the Freedom Tower and there were 50-75,000 people who visited her during the day – the lines started well before midnight the day before. Streets were closed, there was NO WAY to get out of the port without running in to the closures.  Now, let’s re-consider….what if there had been an emergency and an evacuation of the port was necessary?   City officials, knowing there is a turnover of however many thousands of passengers during the day, should have had better traffic management. Chris

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From what I understand the traffic tie-ups are a common occurrence for the Miami seaport.  It’s just something they live with.,

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s too bad that the memorial service for the Grand Dame of Salsa music and multiple Grammy Award winner CELIA Cruz made it difficult for you to leave the port.  It must have been a terrible inconvenience.  I feel your pain and admire your fortitude in the face of such overwhelming adversity.  You are an inspiration to us all.  Life can really be tough sometimes, eh? "No-body knows the trouble I’ve seen, "No-body knows but Je-sus…" Sigh. Skip  <—–a decades-long admirer and fan of Celia Cruz, whom he misses terribly Perhaps you don’t understand.  Yes, she was a huge star. She was lying in state at the Freedom Tower and there were 50-75,000 people who visited her during the day – the lines started well before midnight the day before. Streets were closed, there was NO WAY to get out of the port without running in to the closures.  Now, let’s re-consider….what if there had been an emergency and an evacuation of the port was necessary?   City officials, knowing there is a turnover of however many thousands of passengers during the day, should have had better traffic management. Chris

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From what I understand the traffic tie-ups are a common occurrence for the Miami seaport.  It’s just something they live with.,

Regular traffic is indeed slow – but 1 1/2 hours to leave the port?  How dreadful to end a relaxing cruise like that.  Of course, attitude is everything, so thinking it is a problem is, well, half the problem. Chris

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We were on that cruise…. Had white tickets for early disembarkation. We got off the ship at 7:AM & yes we noticed the immigration was a bit slow , but attributed it to people who don’t have passports but a bunch of papers. We live 30 mins from the pier & my neighbor picked me up at 7:30 We were home about 8:00, In 64 cruises it was the fastest ever.

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The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes.

You are right, it was very slow in May.   He questioned me about how often I travel and he asked me if I had ever been arrested.  Why do they care how often I travel, and why do they collect this information on American citizens?  Then, he stamped my Customs form, differently from the others, so I had to go elsewhere to be questioned again.  Something about this makes me feel uneasy.  I will use my birth certificate in the future.   Becca  <—–thinks our government has gone too far… Paradise http://www.cruisemaster.com/psfgc.htm Norwegian Dawn http://www.cruisemaster.com/dawn.htm Sleazy3 http://www.cruisemaster.com/sleazy3.htm

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In the case of our disembarkation from Voyager, using 1 minute per guest, that would work out to slightly over two days…..Yeah, I’d say that would be a bit much!! I’ve discussed my wonderful memories of Voyager disembarkation elsewhere in this forum. McT

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. So, approximately one minute per person is too long?? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack Yesterday, it took almost one hour for a line of about 50 to clear through imigration. We got in line at 8:30 and got by the inspector at 9:25. The problem seems to be the passport readers they have are very slow to read the codes. Then he had to look at the comupter screen to see the name.  I thought the time spent was excessive, but I do not know what else is going on. There were eight total inspectors to process our ship. (Explorer). The Navigator was there as was a large Carnival ship.  Maybe the modems were overloaded. The question is what have been other experiences recently after cruise ships arrive Saturday morning. Of course the visitation of the body of Celina Cruz at the Freedom Tower made the rest of the morning a total disaster leaving. We got our luggage about 10:00 and could not get out of the port until just after 11:30.  Traffic was terrible. Reporters and newstruck everywhere.

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The line is always the quickest for those in front. McT

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We were on that cruise…. Had white tickets for early disembarkation. We got off the ship at 7:AM & yes we noticed the immigration was a bit slow , but attributed it to people who don’t have passports but a bunch of papers. We live 30 mins from the pier & my neighbor picked me up at 7:30 We were home about 8:00, In 64 cruises it was the fastest ever.

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Montreal Restaurants

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Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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There was a Keg Restaurant in old Montreal, the last time I was there.  They specialize in steaks.  Very good food. Doug – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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There are a number of cafes which line the main thoroughfare – check the posted menus and sit outside and enjoy a cold Candadian beer with a steak frite (steak & fries), croque monsieur (grilled ham & cheese), or moules (mussels) and absorb the character of the area and people-watch. Bon appetit! Mark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There was a Keg Restaurant in old Montreal, the last time I was there. They specialize in steaks.  Very good food. Doug Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

There is a restaurant in Old Montreal aptly named "Restaurante du Vieux Port".  Specializes in seafood and steak dishes. Danni

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Actually, the absolutely don’t miss place in Montreal is Schwartz’s deli, where the serve the best corned beef (called "smoked meat" in Montreal) in the world. It is a cab ride from the port, but well worth it.

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Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks.

Le Queue de Cheval http://www.queuedecheval.com/intro.asp This restaurant is not in Old Montreal, but it is a short cab ride away.  It is a most impressive, very expensive steak house.  My wife and I can’t wait to go back to Montreal so we can dine there again. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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Actually, the absolutely don’t miss place in Montreal is Schwartz’s deli, where the serve the best corned beef (called "smoked meat" in

Schwartz’s is a decades-old Montreal institution, and is truly a great deli, but "smoked meat," which is a Montreal specialty, is really more like pastrami than corned beef. Schwartz’s will be happy to sell you any or all of the above.

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Here is a dining Guide to Old Montral Port area. http://www.tordine.com/ontheroad/quebec/oldmontreal/ The ones I have dined in and found very good areAuberge Le Saint-Gabriel,Le Fripon, Le Sauvangine. Some of these have Price Fixe meals and Lunch and Brunch prices are lower. If you walk up Place Jacques Cartier you will find many restaurants to choose from as the street is lined with restaurants. For Deli and Montreal Smoked Meat I recommend either Schwartz’s or Bens both Montreal favorites. Another good restaurant and club street is Cresent Street but its not right near the Port. I have been to Montreal at least 20 times so any questions ask.   Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises And Tours East Brunswick, NJ 1-800-357-9393 http://www.galaxseaeb.com

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Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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There was a Keg Restaurant in old Montreal, the last time I was there.  They specialize in steaks.  Very good food. Doug – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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There are a number of cafes which line the main thoroughfare – check the posted menus and sit outside and enjoy a cold Candadian beer with a steak frite (steak & fries), croque monsieur (grilled ham & cheese), or moules (mussels) and absorb the character of the area and people-watch. Bon appetit! Mark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There was a Keg Restaurant in old Montreal, the last time I was there. They specialize in steaks.  Very good food. Doug Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

There is a restaurant in Old Montreal aptly named "Restaurante du Vieux Port".  Specializes in seafood and steak dishes. Danni

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Actually, the absolutely don’t miss place in Montreal is Schwartz’s deli, where the serve the best corned beef (called "smoked meat" in Montreal) in the world. It is a cab ride from the port, but well worth it.

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Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks.

Le Queue de Cheval http://www.queuedecheval.com/intro.asp This restaurant is not in Old Montreal, but it is a short cab ride away.  It is a most impressive, very expensive steak house.  My wife and I can’t wait to go back to Montreal so we can dine there again. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone recommend restaurants in the Vieux Port area of Montreal where we will be before sailing on the Rotterdam? Thanks. Chuck

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Actually, the absolutely don’t miss place in Montreal is Schwartz’s deli, where the serve the best corned beef (called "smoked meat" in

Schwartz’s is a decades-old Montreal institution, and is truly a great deli, but "smoked meat," which is a Montreal specialty, is really more like pastrami than corned beef. Schwartz’s will be happy to sell you any or all of the above.

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Here is a dining Guide to Old Montral Port area. http://www.tordine.com/ontheroad/quebec/oldmontreal/ The ones I have dined in and found very good areAuberge Le Saint-Gabriel,Le Fripon, Le Sauvangine. Some of these have Price Fixe meals and Lunch and Brunch prices are lower. If you walk up Place Jacques Cartier you will find many restaurants to choose from as the street is lined with restaurants. For Deli and Montreal Smoked Meat I recommend either Schwartz’s or Bens both Montreal favorites. Another good restaurant and club street is Cresent Street but its not right near the Port. I have been to Montreal at least 20 times so any questions ask.   Diane Giambalvo Travel Consultant GalaxSea Cruises And Tours East Brunswick, NJ 1-800-357-9393 http://www.galaxseaeb.com

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***HOW YES CHANGED MY LIFE***

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This reminds me: I haven’t used my killfile yet. Shawn It wasn’t *that* bad. I don’t know which newsgroup you’re on, since he sent that to about fifty of ‘em, but he’s been bugging us at alt.tv.snl a lot lately. Maybe he’s new where you are. If that’s the case, enjoy! Shawn

Nah, he doesn’t bug us much at alt.tv.real-world.

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:: :: ::I dunno, but I think I’m going to go get myself some Yes. Isn’t that your favorite word, LOL? Respectfully submitted by, David Hero

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Dawn wrote Doi! It’s a 2 CD set.

Then why didn’t he say "the second cd"?

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Dawn wrote Doi! It’s a 2 CD set. Then why didn’t he say "the second cd"?

I imagine they are labeled *1* and *2*.

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That’s correct, (IIRC) Ron Z – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Graig?

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: : : This reminds me: I haven’t used my killfile yet. : : Shawn : : : It wasn’t *that* bad. : : I don’t know which newsgroup you’re on, since he sent that to about fifty : of : ‘em, but he’s been bugging us at alt.tv.snl a lot lately. Maybe he’s new : where you are. If that’s the case, enjoy! : : Shawn : : Nah, he doesn’t bug us much at alt.tv.real-world. : Shut your piehole, twatwaffle!

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: Craig Nettles. : : : : If you mean the Yankee Third Baseman, it was with a "G" not a "C" : That was a common error. : Ron Z : : Oh! and sometimes I would think about Bucky Dent. You know that won where he has the bat up on his shoulders and his arms are draped over it. Remember?

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:: :: ::I dunno, but I think I’m going to go get myself some Yes. Isn’t that your favorite word, LOL?

It HAS been a long time since I listened to Yes. Too long.

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: :

: : : I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life : forever. : It all started in college. See, a few of the women I bedded down with : were : unsatisfied with my performance. A little "quick on the trigger" they : suggested. : I decided to do something about it. I practiced vigorously by myself, : relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this : did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles. : Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of : music!!! : : What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced : songs. The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by : the : band Yes. : Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were : going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." : : I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before : having : sex (with a girl). As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), : you : know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. : The first song by the way is called "Your Move." What an appropriately : named : title!!! It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the : evening." From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster : paced. Good for some light petting. These two songs are good for about : seven : minutes of petting. : : Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround." Now is the time for : some heavy petting. If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s : head : down to your genitals. Let the girl take her time. You’ve got plenty of : time : with this song!! Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria : Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known. I think with a song : known : as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next. Take your time and do it right. : Try : and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, : your lover will thank you! : : Take your time here. Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle : your : way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge." Believe me, your : girlfriend : will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha! You’ve got almost 19 minutes to : kill : with this track, your girl will thank you! Try different techniques with : each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly : self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter : your : lover. The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the : pace : of your thrusts and strokes. The tempo will make : it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song. If you : do : this right, you will not disgrace yourself. : : Track 5 hits. You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper." Try to : mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order : to : hold out until the end. The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and : "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke. When "Wurm" kicks in, : you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric : rhythm. : Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. : : You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for : over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes! : Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on : your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! : : Thank you, Yes! : : : WTF is going on around here? : : Is it the changing seasons? : : I dunno, but I think I’m going to go get myself some Yes. You’ll thank me after you’re shrieking like Jon Anderson.

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:: :: ::I dunno, but I think I’m going to go get myself some Yes. Isn’t that your favorite word, LOL? It HAS been a long time since I listened to Yes. Too long.

May I suggest the new album, "Magnification"? The majority of posters on alt.music.yes feel it’s one of their best albums ever, out in Europe now, Dec. 4th in N. America, although you can order it from Amazon UK & others. Incredible album, it’s taken up permamnent residence in my CD player :) ) Paul —- "These are the days that we will talk about"

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:: :: ::Incredible album, it’s taken up permamnent residence in my CD player :) ) Doesn’t the laser burn the vinyl, LOL? Respectfully submitted by, David Hero

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : : : : : I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life : forever. : It all started in college. See, a few of the women I bedded down with : were : unsatisfied with my performance. A little "quick on the trigger" they : suggested. : I decided to do something about it. I practiced vigorously by myself, : relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this : did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles. : Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of : music!!! : : What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced : songs. The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by : the : band Yes. : Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were : going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." : : I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before : having : sex (with a girl). As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), : you : know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. : The first song by the way is called "Your Move." What an appropriately : named : title!!! It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the : evening." From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster : paced. Good for some light petting. These two songs are good for about : seven : minutes of petting. : : Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround." Now is the time for : some heavy petting. If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s : head : down to your genitals. Let the girl take her time. You’ve got plenty of : time : with this song!! Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria : Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known. I think with a song : known : as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next. Take your time and do it right. : Try : and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, : your lover will thank you! : : Take your time here. Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle : your : way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge." Believe me, your : girlfriend : will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha! You’ve got almost 19 minutes to : kill : with this track, your girl will thank you! Try different techniques with : each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly : self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter : your : lover. The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the : pace : of your thrusts and strokes. The tempo will make : it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song. If you : do : this right, you will not disgrace yourself. : : Track 5 hits. You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper." Try to : mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order : to : hold out until the end. The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and : "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke. When "Wurm" kicks in, : you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric : rhythm. : Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. : : You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for : over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes! : Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on : your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! : : Thank you, Yes! : : : WTF is going on around here? : : Is it the changing seasons? : : I dunno, but I think I’m going to go get myself some Yes. You’ll thank me after you’re shrieking like Jon Anderson.

My record player’s broken. :(

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: :: ::I dunno, but I think I’m going to go get myself some Yes. Isn’t that your favorite word, LOL? It HAS been a long time since I listened to Yes. Too long. May I suggest the new album, "Magnification"? The majority of posters on alt.music.yes feel it’s one of their best albums ever, out in Europe now, Dec. 4th in N. America, although you can order it from Amazon UK & others. Incredible album, it’s taken up permamnent residence in my CD player :) )

I’m quite sure you’re not getting it. If I could GET some Yes, I would.

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There were 2 sides on your cd?

Doi! It’s a 2 CD set.

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: There were 2 sides on your cd? : Doi! It’s a 2 CD set. There are people who still say ‘doi’?   Cool. I haven’t heard that since the 70’s. —  -S.  

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: There were 2 sides on your cd? : Doi! It’s a 2 CD set. There are people who still say ‘doi’? Cool. I haven’t heard that since the 70’s.

I *was* a bit unsure of the spelling, but I thought it fitting.

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Craig Nettles. If you mean the Yankee Third Baseman, it was with a "G" not a "C" That was a common error. Ron Z

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Craig Nettles. If you mean the Yankee Third Baseman, it was with a "G" not a "C" That was a common error. Ron Z

Graig?

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This reminds me: I haven’t used my killfile yet. Shawn It wasn’t *that* bad.

I don’t know which newsgroup you’re on, since he sent that to about fifty of ‘em, but he’s been bugging us at alt.tv.snl a lot lately. Maybe he’s new where you are. If that’s the case, enjoy! Shawn

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This reminds me: I haven’t used my killfile yet. Shawn

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This reminds me: I haven’t used my killfile yet. Shawn

It wasn’t *that* bad.

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There were 2 sides on your cd?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college. See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance. A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested. I decided to do something about it. I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles. Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs. The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes. Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl). As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move." What an appropriately named title!!! It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening." From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced. Good for some light petting. These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround." Now is the time for some heavy petting. If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals. Let the girl take her time. You’ve got plenty of time with this song!! Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known. I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next. Take your time and do it right. Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here. Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge." Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha! You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you! Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover. The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes. The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song. If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits. You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper." Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end. The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke. When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes! Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! WTF is going on around here? Is it the changing seasons?

I dunno, but I think I’m going to go get myself some Yes.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college. See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance. A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested. I decided to do something about it. I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles. Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs. The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes. Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl). As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move." What an appropriately named title!!! It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening." From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced. Good for some light petting. These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround." Now is the time for some heavy petting. If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals. Let the girl take her time. You’ve got plenty of time with this song!! Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known. I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next. Take your time and do it right. Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here. Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge." Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha! You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you! Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover. The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes. The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song. If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits. You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper." Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end. The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke. When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes! Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes!

WTF is going on around here? Is it the changing seasons?

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I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college. See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance. A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested. I decided to do something about it. I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles. Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs. The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes. Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl). As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move." What an appropriately named title!!! It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening." From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced. Good for some light petting. These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround." Now is the time for some heavy petting. If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals. Let the girl take her time. You’ve got plenty of time with this song!! Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known. I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next. Take your time and do it right. Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here. Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge." Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha! You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you! Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover. The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes. The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song. If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits. You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper." Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end. The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke. When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes! Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm?

I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic. — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

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just a rat in a cage: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic. I was referring, Robin, to this passage in your latest work: "I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy?" I found it rather cryptic, and I was hoping that somebody–perhaps even you–could offer some insight as to what the HELL you were talking about. Hmm? I wonder if somehow canine telepathy could enhance someone’s sexual performance. . .assuming the telepathic canine hasn’t been fixed.

OK OK shut up.  Shut up, I got won.  OK check it out.  (Hee) *ahem* OK.  ***MY IMPRESSION OF A TELEPATHIC DOG**** [long pause] [dog looks up] "Well, wouldn’t *you*, if you could reach?"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening."  From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends.  Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge."  Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha!  You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover.  The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes!

Thank you Russell B!!!

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just a rat in a cage: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic. you ever wonder if everyone else in the world is telepathic but you, and they’re all just being kind to you? — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane" I’m tired of seeing this thread, you guys.  Please everyone, remove alt.tv.snl when you reply to it.  Thank you so much : D!

You want me to remove your newsgroup?  Jeez, that’s throwing out the baby with the bathwater.  I mean, wouldn’t it be better if off-topic people just didn’t post to your group?  Hmm?

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rat in a cage: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic. you ever wonder if everyone else in the world is telepathic but you, and they’re all just being kind to you?

If that were true, you would be telepathic and so you wouldn’t have to ask her.  You would already know.  Thus, you’ve just answered your own question merely by asking it (but note that it took *me* to make you realize it). You’re welcome.

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: I’m tired of seeing this thread, you guys.  Please everyone, remove : alt.tv.snl when you reply to it.  Thank you so much : D! Or you could simply not open posts with that subject line. . . — gmelin Only two things are infinite, the universe and stupidity — and I’m not sure about the former.      – Albert Einstein

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening."  From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends.  Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge."  Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha!  You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover.  The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

ROTFLMAO!! You folks are freaking funny!! — Come post on the best in Comics and World News Message Boards:  http://www.newimmortal.com/messageboards

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic. you ever wonder if everyone else in the world is telepathic but you, and they’re all just being kind to you? — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

I’m tired of seeing this thread, you guys.  Please everyone, remove alt.tv.snl when you reply to it.  Thank you so much : D! Jo http://www.livejournal.com/users/jo_gucci_goo "Gucci nails. Gucci hair.  Gucci style. Gucci gucci goo."

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic.

you ever wonder if everyone else in the world is telepathic but you, and they’re all just being kind to you? — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

– "The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason, but … there have always been three fundamental concerns. One is weapons of mass destruction, the second is support for terrorism, the third is the criminal treatment of the Iraqi people. … The third one by itself, as I think I said earlier, is a reason to help the Iraqis but it’s not a reason to put American kids’ lives at risk, certainly not on the scale we did". -Paul Wolfowitz, interviewed in Vanity Fair magazine

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic. I was referring, Robin, to this passage in your latest work: "I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy?" I found it rather cryptic, and I was hoping that somebody–perhaps even you–could offer some insight as to what the HELL you were talking about. Hmm?

I wonder if somehow canine telepathy could enhance someone’s sexual performance. . .assuming the telepathic canine hasn’t been fixed. — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – still just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here? Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny."

Jon Anderson suffers from dementia. It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic. — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

– "This is off topic in malta.test" – Ross <uproarious hilarity http://www.geocities.com/snuhsite – Rebecca Ore admits to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet that stalking me didn’t produce the desired affect: http://tinyurl.com/dpbl Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet Organization: Rebecca’s Feuer, you can find the name, address, photos, and all that jazz on Usenet about Dean Humphreys and you still won’t be able to do anything to get him out of your group unless you ignore him. Soapy is his virtual girl friend until when she’s not. — Rebecca Ore http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore

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I noticed that one of the newsgroups you crossposted to was alt.support.impotence.  Good for you, not being in denial of the problem. That’s the first step towards a cure!

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just a rat in a cage: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here?  Hmm? I am talking about the following quote where Jon Anderson discusses in great detail his dog: "He’s called Bear.  He sings, he talks, and he actually has mental telepathy.  He’s very good at that.  Animals teach us a lot of stuff. He’s a good guy.  He really sings great.  I’ll be messing around, and all of a sudden, he’ll walk past, and he’ll be singing away.  Sometimes he whistles as well.  It’s pretty funny." It was reported in an issue of Yes Magazine in the mid-90s.  It was also discussed in great detail on alt.music.yes. Dammit, why can’t I have a telepathic pet?  I grew up surrounded by pets, but none of them were telepathic.

I was referring, Robin, to this passage in your latest work: "I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy?" I found it rather cryptic, and I was hoping that somebody–perhaps even you–could offer some insight as to what the HELL you were talking about. Hmm?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. yeah yeah yeah. and so on. It was just as unfunny when your entire post was first posted in 2001: http://tinyurl.com/ec1l And by someone else to boot. Plagiarize much?

Stolen shtick? — Paul

– "This is off topic in malta.test" – Ross <uproarious hilarity http://www.geocities.com/snuhsite – Rebecca Ore admits to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet that stalking me didn’t produce the desired affect: http://tinyurl.com/dpbl Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet Organization: Rebecca’s Feuer, you can find the name, address, photos, and all that jazz on Usenet about Dean Humphreys and you still won’t be able to do anything to get him out of your group unless you ignore him. Soapy is his virtual girl friend until when she’s not. — Rebecca Ore http://mysite.verizon.net/rebecca.ore

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening."  From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends.  Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge."  Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha!  You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover.  The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes!

Sounds too much like work. trying to time things with the music. Nice to see ther caring sensitive side of you. personally , I think Yes sucks.   ;-

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TMI. TMI. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Funny, I actually lost my virginity while "Roundabout" was on the radio. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening."  From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge."  Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha!  You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover.  The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening." From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge." Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha! You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover. The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes! Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes!

You must be really bored. —   __   __   __   __               O     O       O  /    /  | /  | /  | /  |       O     o        o  __/ |__/ |  / |     __/         // S O A P Y // |                             jgs |             | /

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just a rat in a cage: You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy?

OK, does anybody understand what the HELL Robin is talking about here?  Hmm?

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in a cage: I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. <snip TMI Two questions: Is this like an adult version of  the DSotM/WoO synchronicity?

No.  It’s not even close.  What the hell kind of drugs are you on? Are you Johnny B’s evil twin?

Who?

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Despite all his or her rage, ""Paul Goodwin" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. yeah yeah yeah. and so on. It was just as unfunny when your entire post was first posted in 2001: http://tinyurl.com/ec1l And by someone else to boot. Plagiarize much?

Like any artist, my ideas come from real life.  I have my inspirations, my driving forces, my muses.   Yes, I read the post that you are referring to, and it was a big influence on my latest work.  But if you cannot tell the difference between "plagiarism" and paying tribute, I am afraid there is nothing I can do for you or your narrow mind.  And so I have nothing more to say to you. Goodbye.

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Funny, I actually lost my virginity while "Roundabout" was on the radio. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening."  From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends. Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge."  Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha!  You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover.  The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes! Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

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I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever.

<snip TMI Two questions: Is this like an adult version of  the DSotM/WoO synchronicity? Are you Johnny B’s evil twin?

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I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever.

yeah yeah yeah. and so on. It was just as unfunny when your entire post was first posted in 2001: http://tinyurl.com/ec1l And by someone else to boot. Plagiarize much? — Paul

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening."  From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends.  Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge."  Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha!  You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover.  The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes!

Jon Anderson has a very interesting dog.  According to him, his dog is named Bear.  Bear sings, talks, and is telepathic. I wonder if Bear the singing, talking, telepathic dog could assist matters somewhat with his mental telepathy? — "Surely you can’t be serious!" "I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley." From "Airplane"

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I know it may sound crazy, but this 70’s prog rock band changed my life forever. It all started in college.  See, a few of the women I bedded down with were unsatisfied with my performance.  A little "quick on the trigger" they suggested.  I decided to do something about it.  I practiced vigorously by myself, relying on old standbys such as thinking about baseball or math. All this did was give me strange thoughts about Craig Nettles.  Then it came to me (the idea), I could pace myself with the use of music!!! What I needed was a ridiculously long CD containing slow to fast paced songs.  The only CD I had that seemed to fit the bill was "Yessongs" by the band Yes.  Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, Steve Howe, and Alan White were going to be my sexual gurus! "Guru" is an Indian word for "teacher." I put my theory into action by putting on side 2 of Yessongs before having sex (with a girl).  As the first song came on, I came on (to the girl), you know, some caressing of the face, some sweet nothings in the ear. The first song by the way is called "Your Move."  What an appropriately named title!!!  It’s a very touching, sweet, song that aids in "kicking off the evening."  From there, it segues into "All Good People." A little faster paced.  Good for some light petting.  These two songs are good for about seven minutes of petting. Track two is a song called "Long Distance Runaround."  Now is the time for some heavy petting.  If you’re a gentleman, you won’t force the woman’s head down to your genitals.  Let the girl take her time.  You’ve got plenty of time with this song!!  Long Distance Runaround will transition into "Shindleria Praematurus" or "The Fish" as it’s better known.  I think with a song known as "The Fish" you can guess what’s next.  Take your time and do it right.  Try and waggle your tongue in time with Chris Squire’s thundering bass solo, your lover will thank you! Take your time here.  Don’t abandon the job after this song ends.  Waggle your way thorough track three, "Close to the Edge."  Believe me, your girlfriend will be "Close to the Edge" ha ha ha!  You’ve got almost 19 minutes to kill with this track, your girl will thank you!  Try different techniques with each movement of this song.  "I Get Up I Get Down" is fairly self-explanatory. When you hit track 4, "Yours is no disgrace", enter your lover.  The time signature of this song varies greatly so as to vary the pace of your thrusts and strokes.  The tempo will make it even more enjoyable than the jackhammer beat of a Ramones song.  If you do this right, you will not disgrace yourself. Track 5 hits.  You’re in the home stretch with "Starship Trooper."  Try to mentally picture Robert Heinlein or the film "Starship Troopers" in order to hold out until the end.  The slow, grinding, tempo of "Life Seeker" and "Disillusion" will give you a slow. steady. stroke.  When "Wurm" kicks in, you and your lover will be locked into a hypnotizing, almost tantric rhythm. Wait for the crescendo and explode into your lover. You will now have the distinguished pleasure of pleasuring your lover for over an hour thanks to the prog-rock noodlings of Yes!  Don’t be discouraged if you don’t make it through "Total Mass Retain" on your first try. Practice, practice, practice!! Thank you, Yes!

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5 Major Cruise Lines to Call on Philly in 2003!

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I think thst parking was like $8 a day but do not hold me to that… But Parking is available and what a WOnderful Pier to go out of!

Parking info is at this link: http://www.cruisephilly.com/directions/driving/ — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

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The Philadelphia cruise pier is located right over the I-95 bridge from Philadelphia International Airport … and not far from Philadelphia’s Amtrak 30th Street magnificently restored main train station [with great service to Washington, New York and Boston]! And, if you hurry up, you can see the SS UNITED STATES rusting away at a pier north of the cruise pier! In conjunction with your cruise, come visit Philadelphia’s new [to open July 4th] US National Constitution Center near Independence Hall [all of this just a short trip from the cruise pier].

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Where do you park & how much do they charge for cruise parking in Philly ? Can’t find any info. on web site. BILL

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They have a HUGE parking lot there with Shuttle bus to the ship, we also have parked in a building  and they have a smaller parking lot over by the terminal. I think thst parking was like $8 a day but do not hold me to that… But Parking is available and what a WOnderful Pier to go out of! Susette Join us on our Annual Group Cruise 29Nov03  Navigator of the Seas Check out our new website: www.cruiseoutlets.com

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Thank you for your post, Mayor Street. :) — DG in Cherry Hill, NJ

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Ray, Could you lend me your travel agent credentials for the 2 day Serenade vist in October? ;-) Bill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Everyone, I received this press release from Delaware River Port Authority (DRPA) and thought it would be of interest.  If you have missed any of my news’ postings, they are available on my web site. Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com Philadelphia Kicks Off Banner Cruise Season – 5 Major Cruise Lines to Call on Port in 2003 The Port of Philadelphia and Camden (PPC) – America’s Berthplace – enters the 2003 cruise season with the busiest port season ever. Regional residents who suffered through the tough winter can select one of 17 cruises to Bermuda, the Caribbean, or New England and Canada. 2003 Cruise Season and Beyond Beginning May 6, five major cruise lines – Celebrity Cruises, Norwegian Cruise Lines, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, Carnival Cruises, and Holland America Lines – will sail from the Philadelphia Cruise Terminal at Pier 1 in 2003. The spring cruise season starts Tuesday, May 6, with the arrival of the Carnival Legend. The Legend made its debut at the Port of Philadelphia and Camden in October. Its arrival signaled a rebirth of the region’s cruising business and served as the catalyst for the America’s Berthplace marketing campaign. Beginning August 31, the Celebrity Horizon makes seven Bermuda sailings and closes the season with an Eastern Caribbean sailing on October 19. This marks the first time since 1999 that the Horizon has sailed from Philadelphia on a scheduled basis. "The sampling of our port by five major cruise lines shows our effort and the willingness of the Bermuda government and the cruise lines to look at Philadelphia as a major port of departure," said Melissa Grimm, director of the Port of Philadelphia and Camden. The port has benefitted from the recent trends in cruising. Norwegian Cruise Lines (NCL) expanded their Homeland Cruising program, which allows travelers to start their cruise from ports closer to home such as Philadelphia. NCL’s Norwegian Sea sails from Philadelphia to Bermuda and the Caribbean in 2003. In 2004, NCL replaces the Norwegian Sea with the Norwegian Crown, which will sail from Philadelphia to Bermuda in the spring. Holland America Lines (HAL), Prinsendam makes a port call September 30 as part of a 21-day San Francisco to Boston itinerary and embarks passengers for a 12-day New England/ Canada cruise. In May of 2004, the Rotterdam is scheduled for the first 10-day round-trip Caribbean sailing from the Philadelphia Cruise Terminal at Pier 1. In October 2003 the Philadelphia Cruise Terminal hosts the newest Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines (RCCL) vessel, Serenade of the Seas. This inaugural visit includes an exclusive two-day cruise at sea for travel agents, media and VIPs and a nine-day passenger cruise to the Eastern Caribbean. Radisson Seven Seas makes a port call in May and has also shown interest in sailings to Bermuda for the 2004 season. Capital Improvements The Philadelphia and Camden region is strategically located in the center of a major U.S. population base. Twenty-five percent of the U.S. population live within a 5

Bermuda Cruise out of Philly PA ??

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Does anyone know where you leave from?? Where is the pier?? Also, where can you park your car for the week?? How much does it cost?? Thanks!!!

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Does anyone know where you leave from?? Where is the pier?? Also, where can you park your car for the week?? How much does it cost??

Everything you will need to know is here: http://www.cruisephilly.com/facilities/ — George in PA Countryside Travel www.countryside-travel.com Norway 2 www.cruisemaster.com/norway Norwegian Dawn www.cruisemaster.com/dawn.htm

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I didn’t check George’s URL but I am sure that he is correct that it is what used to be the Navy Yard in South Philadelphia. – DG in Cherry Hill, NJ

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Does anyone know where you leave from?? Where is the pier?? Also, where can you park your car for the week?? How much does it cost?? Thanks!!!

The cruise terminal is in the old Navy Yard at the southern end of Broad St. http://www.cruisephilly.com/ — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

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The URL George mentioned is very informative. I’ll just add my thoughts. If you live within driving distance of Philadelphia getting a cruise there is so much easier than flying anywhere and much less confusing than New York. Enclosed parking is in an old warehouse one block away. They even provide a "trolley" car back if you don’t want to walk. You drop you bags off at the terminal and then park. When we last went the parking was $8 per day. On the return you would get your bags, one person can then wait while the other gets the car. Drive over to the terminal, get the other person and you’re on your way. It was great for us to be home in less than an hour after we debarked. The Naval Base is basically one block from I95 on the Broad Street exit. — Greg (Remove the ‘.invalid’ twice to send Email)

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Does anyone know where you leave from?? Where is the pier?? Also, where can you park your car for the week?? How much does it cost?? Thanks!!!

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Does anyone know where you leave from?? Where is the pier?? Also, where can you park your car for the week?? How much does it cost??

Everything you will need to know is here: http://www.cruisephilly.com/facilities/ — George in PA Countryside Travel www.countryside-travel.com Norway 2 www.cruisemaster.com/norway Norwegian Dawn www.cruisemaster.com/dawn.htm

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I didn’t check George’s URL but I am sure that he is correct that it is what used to be the Navy Yard in South Philadelphia. – DG in Cherry Hill, NJ

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Does anyone know where you leave from?? Where is the pier?? Also, where can you park your car for the week?? How much does it cost?? Thanks!!!

The cruise terminal is in the old Navy Yard at the southern end of Broad St. http://www.cruisephilly.com/ — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

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The URL George mentioned is very informative. I’ll just add my thoughts. If you live within driving distance of Philadelphia getting a cruise there is so much easier than flying anywhere and much less confusing than New York. Enclosed parking is in an old warehouse one block away. They even provide a "trolley" car back if you don’t want to walk. You drop you bags off at the terminal and then park. When we last went the parking was $8 per day. On the return you would get your bags, one person can then wait while the other gets the car. Drive over to the terminal, get the other person and you’re on your way. It was great for us to be home in less than an hour after we debarked. The Naval Base is basically one block from I95 on the Broad Street exit. — Greg (Remove the ‘.invalid’ twice to send Email)

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Acapulco Cliff Divers

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Where did you get that crazy idea. the Peso can easily be changed into dollars and vice versa. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you tip in US $ they will love you more.  US dollars are worth about 3 times what ever you give them in Pesos.  A couple of dollars is more than enough.  

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    Where did I get that crazy idea?  You ask any local if they would rather have a peso or and American dollar and 100 out of 100 Mexican people will pick the US $.  Now go look at the exchange rate.  Which is stronger the US $ or the Peso?  They are NOT the same.  Far far from it. The issue of exchanging dollars to pesos or visa versa is not the point…the point is the American $ is worth more.  Still think they are the same?  I have bunch of mexican pesos I would love to have US $ for…..want to trade?  

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If you tip in US $ they will love you more.  US dollars are worth about 3 times what ever you give them in Pesos.  A couple of dollars is more than enough.  

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     There is one other option and I have done this.  Hire a Boat. Don’t let this scare you.  Its not as expensive as you think.  Only about $20 US.  for the boat and driver for an hour.  The two times I’ve done this the boat drives has also included free beer,  soda and water. The driver will take you to see the cliff divers and you will be only a few feet away from their entry point into the water.

It’d be even more interesting if the boat drifted directly BELOW the divers. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

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I don’t know what is is considered usual,but my husband gives them $5.00 ANNIE

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ROFL. Good reply. ;) It was asked: <<What is an appropriate tip for the divers? Thanks. Lee replied:         "Don’t look down." —  - Lee

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Ater they dive they also come around for tips

What is an appropriate tip for the divers? Thanks.

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Poor Vicki is really confused.  The cliff she suggested I jump off wasn’t by the ocean and there wasn’t even any water at the bottom. . . just rocks. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What she really said was, "Tom, why don’t you go jump in the lake".  I don’t think he heard her correctly! Tobieon an Island in the Pacific Vicki has suggested several times that I try the cliff diving.  Is there a place that offers it? <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance! — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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     There is one other option and I have done this.  Hire a Boat. Don’t let this scare you.  Its not as expensive as you think.  Only about $20 US.  for the boat and driver for an hour.  The two times I’ve done this the boat drives has also included free beer,  soda and water. The driver will take you to see the cliff divers and you will be only a few feet away from their entry point into the water.  This is the closest and best view of all.  It is a different perspective than the one everyone else sees from high above in the viewing area.         Don’t think this route will get you out of tipping.  Other divers swim out to the boats to take you "token tips".  If you choose you may throw your coins into the water and they will dive after them.  On the way back you will see some beautiful views of the private homes up on the cliffs.  It is a great show!  I’ve never gotten to see an evening dive show but have been told they dive with torches.   On your way back ask your driver to swing by and see "The Lady"  It is a statue that is underwater.  As about the story….Thats all I’m gonna tell you about it.

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Only if I could sell enough copies to pay for another cruise. <vbg Ermalee <—lol at the visual – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ermalee has promised to film the event. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax Hey Tom, if you do it, please do when we are there so we can watch! Vicki has suggested several times that I try the cliff diving.  Is there a place that offers it? <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Ater they dive they also come around for tips

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Ermalee has promised to film the event. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

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What she really said was, "Tom, why don’t you go jump in the lake".  I don’t think he heard her correctly! Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

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Admission is $5.00 per person, but hat includes a drink (beer, bottled water or soda) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed! not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Also, if it is too hot to sit around on the terrace there are several jewelry stores and large shops on the square that are air conditioned and they have complimentary sodas and beers for shoppers. Good place to hide out for a while waiting for the next dive. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed! not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Admission to the Terrace area was about a Buck per person US plus any tips as the Divers come around. Now the people on the ship will tell you that there are only one or two "performances" per day and that you really need a tour in order to see one but that is hogwash. There are several in the morning and several in the afternoon. It depends on weather and tidal conditions primarily. The divers make their living from the tips and if they don’t dive there are no tips so they will dive as often as they can. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed! not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Hey Tom, if you do it, please do when we are there so we can watch!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Vicki has suggested several times that I try the cliff diving.  Is there a place that offers it? <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Vicki has suggested several times that I try the cliff diving.  Is there a place that offers it? <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

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Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van.

My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van.

My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Vicki has suggested several times that I try the cliff diving.  Is there a place that offers it? <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

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Hey Tom, if you do it, please do when we are there so we can watch!

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Admission to the Terrace area was about a Buck per person US plus any tips as the Divers come around. Now the people on the ship will tell you that there are only one or two "performances" per day and that you really need a tour in order to see one but that is hogwash. There are several in the morning and several in the afternoon. It depends on weather and tidal conditions primarily. The divers make their living from the tips and if they don’t dive there are no tips so they will dive as often as they can. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed! not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Also, if it is too hot to sit around on the terrace there are several jewelry stores and large shops on the square that are air conditioned and they have complimentary sodas and beers for shoppers. Good place to hide out for a while waiting for the next dive. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed! not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Admission is $5.00 per person, but hat includes a drink (beer, bottled water or soda) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Ray, do you remember how much the admission was approximately? I have heard that this is something that should not be missed! not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. My wife and I ate lunch at one of the restaurants across the street from the terminal.  Afterwards we hailed a taxi on the street and he charged us 20 pesos (which came out to about $2-$3 American) to drive us to the cliff divers site.  Once we got there, we paid the admission fee to go down to the terrace viewing area.  The fee included a beverage (beer or soda) and we also took a picture with one of the divers as he climbed back up. — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack There is a Hotel there and a Bar with several verandas from which you get a good view of the Divers but the best, and sometimes all, of the seats are reserved for the Tour Busses. It is not Air-Conditioned anyway and there is nothiung there that I know of that is. In the plaza in front of the Hotel there is a stature of a cliff diver. If you go past that there is a nice viewing area with a nominal entrance fee. Also from there you can walk all the way down to where the divers exit from the water after the dive. This is the area we use and take our groups to as it is much better than being stuck inside the Bar. It is over the hill more or less West of the pier and it is possible to walk but not recommended. Better to take a taxi. In fact, as you exit the pier you will be approached by many drivers offering you a tour package. If you do decide on this try to go with other passengers and make sure it is a nice air conditioned van and that the driver speaks passable English. Set the rate firmly in advance of anyone getting in the van. Havd a great Cruise and let us know of your adventures when you return. Cal Ford Lido Deck Cruises Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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Ater they dive they also come around for tips

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Ermalee has promised to film the event. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

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What she really said was, "Tom, why don’t you go jump in the lake".  I don’t think he heard her correctly! Tobieon an Island in the Pacific

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Only if I could sell enough copies to pay for another cruise. <vbg Ermalee <—lol at the visual – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ermalee has promised to film the event. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax Hey Tom, if you do it, please do when we are there so we can watch! Vicki has suggested several times that I try the cliff diving.  Is there a place that offers it? <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax Where can we go on our own to sit in an air-conditioned bar and watch them? How far from the pier? Thanks in advance!

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     There is one other option and I have done this.  Hire a Boat. Don’t let this scare you.  Its not as expensive as you think.  Only about $20 US.  for the boat and driver for an hour.  The two times I’ve done this the boat drives has also included free beer,  soda and water. The driver will take you to see the cliff divers and you will be only a few feet away from their entry point into the water.  This is the closest and best view of all.  It is a different perspective than the one everyone else sees from high above in the viewing area.         Don’t think this route will get you out of tipping.  Other divers swim out to the boats to take you "token tips".  If you choose you may throw your coins into the water and they will dive after them.  On the way back you will see some beautiful views of the private homes up on the cliffs.  It is a great show!  I’ve never gotten to see an evening dive show but have been told they dive with torches.   On your way back ask your driver to swing by and see "The Lady"  It is a statue that is underwater.  As about the story….Thats all I’m gonna tell you about it.

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Ater they dive they also come around for tips

What is an appropriate tip for the divers? Thanks.

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Poor Vicki is really confused.  The cliff she suggested I jump off wasn’t by the ocean and there wasn’t even any water at the bottom. . . just rocks. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

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     There is one other option and I have done this.  Hire a Boat. Don’t let this scare you.  Its not as expensive as you think.  Only about $20 US.  for the boat and driver for an hour.  The two times I’ve done this the boat drives has also included free beer,  soda and water. The driver will take you to see the cliff divers and you will be only a few feet away from their entry point into the water.

It’d be even more interesting if the boat drifted directly BELOW the divers. <grin — Tom Gauldin, Las Vegas NV NEW PHONE (702) 263-8804 voice/fax

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I don’t know what is is considered usual,but my husband gives them $5.00 ANNIE

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ROFL. Good reply. ;) It was asked: <<What is an appropriate tip for the divers? Thanks. Lee replied:         "Don’t look down." —  - Lee

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If you tip in US $ they will love you more.  US dollars are worth about 3 times what ever you give them in Pesos.  A couple of dollars is more than enough.  

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Where did you get that crazy idea. the Peso can easily be changed into dollars and vice versa. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you tip in US $ they will love you more.  US dollars are worth about 3 times what ever you give them in Pesos.  A couple of dollars is more than enough.  

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    Where did I get that crazy idea?  You ask any local if they would rather have a peso or and American dollar and 100 out of 100 Mexican people will pick the US $.  Now go look at the exchange rate.  Which is stronger the US $ or the Peso?  They are NOT the same.  Far far from it. The issue of exchanging dollars to pesos or visa versa is not the point…the point is the American $ is worth more.  Still think they are the same?  I have bunch of mexican pesos I would love to have US $ for…..want to trade?  

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back to back cruises?

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Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

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Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day )

I have done back to back 7 day cruises. Never left the ship, kept same dining and cabin. Hank

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

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Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

Oh my!  I was thinking the same thing.  Trying to find one that returns to the right port though.  I thought I was crazy to even think about it, glad to know I’m not the only one.  I just don’t like the idea of packing and getting off and then back on again.  If I could keep the same room I might do it. ~Patty

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Did a back to back a couple of years ago on CROWN DYNASTY,went from NEW YORK to FTLAUDERDALE FLA.around the carribean,then back to FT. LAUDERDALE,stayed on the ship,then went to central america,a total of twenty nine days,very good cruise,but a little long Will think hard before we take another one that long,the DYNASTY is no longer sailing here,she was sold a while back,it was a very,very good ship,wish she was still sailing here,believe she is now in europe Annie

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count?

OK, I’ll ask.  How much do you tip??? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) I have done back to back 7 day cruises. Never left the ship, kept same dining and cabin. Hank

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Lots of people do! I suspect that’s part of why some ships have varying routes. I’m just back from an eleven night cruise and there were a fair number of people who had done (or were doing) twenty-two nights… BTW, you don’t actually have to get off when doing back to backs<G.

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Hi we have done  back to back cruises 7 times on to different ships . I like doing it that way instead of staying on the same ship for 2 weeks .If you stay on the same ship the food and shows on the 2nd week are the same as the 1st week .But on two different ships the food and shows are very different .We are hoping to do the Grand Princess in august with the Zuiderdam cruise we are already booked on .And you know it’s kind of funny when you get off the ship most people will be going home . But you will be going on another ship .

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If you stay on the same ship the food and shows on the 2nd week are the same as the 1st week .

Oh, I didn’t even think of that.  I guess a different ship would be better. Just when I thought I had it figured out, I have much more research to do. ~Patty

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris

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The giving of "tips" is frowned upon. — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? OK, I’ll ask.  How much do you tip??? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) I have done back to back 7 day cruises. Never left the ship, kept same dining and cabin. Hank

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Oh yes Formal night consisted of dressing in 1 piece coveralls, waiting in line for 30 minutes for over cooked chicken parm. The big difference having a meeting with the captain is not a good thing. — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

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If you stay on the same ship the food and shows on the 2nd week are the same as the 1st week . Oh, I didn’t even think of that.  I guess a different ship would be better. Just when I thought I had it figured out, I have much more research to do.

Yeah but, you know how most nights you can’t decided among the choices on the menu? Now you’d have another chance. And all the times there are multiple activities happening at once–now you could try one the first week and another the second. Want to spend a night just relaxing on your balcony with room service? Do it, and don’t feel guilty about missing the action in the dining room or the lounges–you can catch it next week! Kim would love back to back, one day, when the kids are older…

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Yep, got off the Norweigin Sky and walked down and got on the Carnival Paradise.  Worked great. Ed in Las Vegas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

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Want to spend a night just relaxing on your balcony with room service? Do it, and don’t feel guilty about missing the action in the dining room or the lounges–you can catch it next week! Kim would love back to back, one day, when the kids are older…

Sounds good to me!  This is our first cruise without the kids.  25th Anniversary actually.  I want something long and relaxing.  I’ve earned it! :) ~Patty

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Good point, Kim! You can stretch 7 days into 2 weeks. I know there have been many times when it’s been an "eenie-meenie-minie-mo" situation for me. If you can’t cruise back-to-back on two different ships, then your solution sounds perfect. Where do I sign up? :-) ~Lindsay

<<Yeah but, you know how most nights you can’t decided among the choices on the menu? Now you’d have another chance. And all the times there are multiple activities happening at once–now you could try one the first week and another the second. Want to spend a night just relaxing on your balcony with room service? Do it, and don’t feel guilty about missing the action in the dining room or the lounges–you can catch it next week! Kim

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We’ve done two back-to-back cruises.  Once we spent a week in Puerto Rico, then went on the Seaward (now Norwegian Sea) Western Caribbean first week, then Southern Caribbean the second week.  NCL invited us to take the El Yunke Forest tour free to get us off the ship on turn around day. Last June we did a back-to-back on the Sun Princess, (first week Vancouver to Seward, AK, next week the same cruise in reverse.  It was amazing, got to see Glacier Bay, College Fjord, Juneau, and Skagway (all twice).  You can window shop on the way up and do your buying on the way back.  That way you know where the best prices are.  We hit it lucky and had two whole weeks of marvelous weather.  Lots of people swimming and sunbathing most days, even alongside the Glaciers. Might do that one again sometime if the price is right.  Flying back from Fairbamks (one-way) costs almost as much as another week on the ship. Both of these back-to-backs we stayed in the same cabin, so we didn’t have to unpack or anything. Tobieon an Island in the Pacific Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

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Yep, got off the Norweigin Sky and walked down and got on the Carnival Paradise.  Worked great. Ed in Las Vegas

As long as you remember to change the tags on the bags. I would love to do back to back and would have considered it on the NCL Dawn with the alternating Eastern Western itinerary but she’s off to NYC. With the 9 resturants you could avoid any chance of the feeling of same trip different ports. For me the problem is getting 2 weeks off back to back. I have taken a repositioning cruise (13 days) and at 45 was in the 1% of the youngest on board. The best part, day six at sea, and suddenly realizing that tomorrow you start a 7 day cruise. Back to back 7 day may give you a better mix of passengers if that’s what you want. Don’t think I want to go through the debarkcation/embarkcation nightmare to change ships. I want to stay in the cruise ship state of mind that usually takes a couple of days to reach.

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris

Do they put mints on your pillow?

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No, but the laundry service is free and so is the Midnight Buffet, also know as Mid Rats — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

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Jeff…  That is how I started cruising several years ago when I retired.  I started off taking Carnival’s little three day weekender out of Southern California then staying on for their four day gig during the week.  They also run a seven day tour that I have turned into a fourteen day session a couple of times.  Needless to say… all these turnarounds were pre-booked as such and with one exception I always kept the same cabin. Now for some people I’m certain this would be a somewhat tedious curriculum…  much less with Carnival.  But I always had the best suite available and I’m one that is content to sit out on my balcony and watch the waves go by.  My cruising needs are very basic…  just plunk me on a boat in the southern lattitudes and I am a happy camper for sure!   Seriously though…  I have since gone on to bigger and better things to satisfy my addiction to cruising…  HAL… Princess…  RCL… and Crystal.  But I will always have fond memories of my little mini turnarounds with Carnival out of Southern California! By the way I loved Chris Detje’s previous postings and one liners concerning his turnarounds with the Navy.  Being an ex-Marine (enlisted) I knew what he meant about the Captain thing.  I enjoyed Chris’s wit and humor… Any how…  hope this input keeps you motivated. Bill

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Yea Bill, the wife wants to go back to back so I guess we will, haven’t decided to stay with same ship or jump on another one. Carnival Sensation did have good food I thought better than Norwegian Sky. She wants to board the Carnival Paradise 7 day Western Caribbean than when that is over go South.

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Glad to see the Navy still has the same sense of humor that it always has had. "Now in my time" I did a 6 month cruise, yarded for 3 months, 2 months reftra things, then a 11 month cruise.  By todays standards a lifetime. Seriously, Chris, best of luck, God speed and following seas to you and all in the service. DocJohn MCPO, USN, Retired

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) I have done back to back 7 day cruises. Never left the ship, kept same dining and cabin. Hank

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oh, yeah, chris, them captains meeting could lead to some great rations for the next 3 days. DocJohnB MCPO, USN, Retired

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and, like on cruise ships, the MidRats, were pretty good DocJohnB MCPO, USN, Retired

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Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

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Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day )

I have done back to back 7 day cruises. Never left the ship, kept same dining and cabin. Hank

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

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Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

Oh my!  I was thinking the same thing.  Trying to find one that returns to the right port though.  I thought I was crazy to even think about it, glad to know I’m not the only one.  I just don’t like the idea of packing and getting off and then back on again.  If I could keep the same room I might do it. ~Patty

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Did a back to back a couple of years ago on CROWN DYNASTY,went from NEW YORK to FTLAUDERDALE FLA.around the carribean,then back to FT. LAUDERDALE,stayed on the ship,then went to central america,a total of twenty nine days,very good cruise,but a little long Will think hard before we take another one that long,the DYNASTY is no longer sailing here,she was sold a while back,it was a very,very good ship,wish she was still sailing here,believe she is now in europe Annie

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count?

OK, I’ll ask.  How much do you tip??? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack

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Lots of people do! I suspect that’s part of why some ships have varying routes. I’m just back from an eleven night cruise and there were a fair number of people who had done (or were doing) twenty-two nights… BTW, you don’t actually have to get off when doing back to backs<G.

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Hi we have done  back to back cruises 7 times on to different ships . I like doing it that way instead of staying on the same ship for 2 weeks .If you stay on the same ship the food and shows on the 2nd week are the same as the 1st week .But on two different ships the food and shows are very different .We are hoping to do the Grand Princess in august with the Zuiderdam cruise we are already booked on .And you know it’s kind of funny when you get off the ship most people will be going home . But you will be going on another ship .

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If you stay on the same ship the food and shows on the 2nd week are the same as the 1st week .

Oh, I didn’t even think of that.  I guess a different ship would be better. Just when I thought I had it figured out, I have much more research to do. ~Patty

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris

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The giving of "tips" is frowned upon. — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? OK, I’ll ask.  How much do you tip??? — Ray "Captain Jack will get you high tonight And take you to your special island Captain Jack will get you by tonight Just a little push and you’ll be smilin’." Billy Joel – Captain Jack I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) I have done back to back 7 day cruises. Never left the ship, kept same dining and cabin. Hank

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Oh yes Formal night consisted of dressing in 1 piece coveralls, waiting in line for 30 minutes for over cooked chicken parm. The big difference having a meeting with the captain is not a good thing. — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

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If you stay on the same ship the food and shows on the 2nd week are the same as the 1st week . Oh, I didn’t even think of that.  I guess a different ship would be better. Just when I thought I had it figured out, I have much more research to do.

Yeah but, you know how most nights you can’t decided among the choices on the menu? Now you’d have another chance. And all the times there are multiple activities happening at once–now you could try one the first week and another the second. Want to spend a night just relaxing on your balcony with room service? Do it, and don’t feel guilty about missing the action in the dining room or the lounges–you can catch it next week! Kim would love back to back, one day, when the kids are older…

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Yep, got off the Norweigin Sky and walked down and got on the Carnival Paradise.  Worked great. Ed in Las Vegas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

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Want to spend a night just relaxing on your balcony with room service? Do it, and don’t feel guilty about missing the action in the dining room or the lounges–you can catch it next week! Kim would love back to back, one day, when the kids are older…

Sounds good to me!  This is our first cruise without the kids.  25th Anniversary actually.  I want something long and relaxing.  I’ve earned it! :) ~Patty

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Good point, Kim! You can stretch 7 days into 2 weeks. I know there have been many times when it’s been an "eenie-meenie-minie-mo" situation for me. If you can’t cruise back-to-back on two different ships, then your solution sounds perfect. Where do I sign up? :-) ~Lindsay

<<Yeah but, you know how most nights you can’t decided among the choices on the menu? Now you’d have another chance. And all the times there are multiple activities happening at once–now you could try one the first week and another the second. Want to spend a night just relaxing on your balcony with room service? Do it, and don’t feel guilty about missing the action in the dining room or the lounges–you can catch it next week! Kim

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We’ve done two back-to-back cruises.  Once we spent a week in Puerto Rico, then went on the Seaward (now Norwegian Sea) Western Caribbean first week, then Southern Caribbean the second week.  NCL invited us to take the El Yunke Forest tour free to get us off the ship on turn around day. Last June we did a back-to-back on the Sun Princess, (first week Vancouver to Seward, AK, next week the same cruise in reverse.  It was amazing, got to see Glacier Bay, College Fjord, Juneau, and Skagway (all twice).  You can window shop on the way up and do your buying on the way back.  That way you know where the best prices are.  We hit it lucky and had two whole weeks of marvelous weather.  Lots of people swimming and sunbathing most days, even alongside the Glaciers. Might do that one again sometime if the price is right.  Flying back from Fairbamks (one-way) costs almost as much as another week on the ship. Both of these back-to-backs we stayed in the same cabin, so we didn’t have to unpack or anything. Tobieon an Island in the Pacific Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) ?

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Yep, got off the Norweigin Sky and walked down and got on the Carnival Paradise.  Worked great. Ed in Las Vegas

As long as you remember to change the tags on the bags. I would love to do back to back and would have considered it on the NCL Dawn with the alternating Eastern Western itinerary but she’s off to NYC. With the 9 resturants you could avoid any chance of the feeling of same trip different ports. For me the problem is getting 2 weeks off back to back. I have taken a repositioning cruise (13 days) and at 45 was in the 1% of the youngest on board. The best part, day six at sea, and suddenly realizing that tomorrow you start a 7 day cruise. Back to back 7 day may give you a better mix of passengers if that’s what you want. Don’t think I want to go through the debarkcation/embarkcation nightmare to change ships. I want to stay in the cruise ship state of mind that usually takes a couple of days to reach.

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I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris

Do they put mints on your pillow?

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No, but the laundry service is free and so is the Midnight Buffet, also know as Mid Rats — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com

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Jeff…  That is how I started cruising several years ago when I retired.  I started off taking Carnival’s little three day weekender out of Southern California then staying on for their four day gig during the week.  They also run a seven day tour that I have turned into a fourteen day session a couple of times.  Needless to say… all these turnarounds were pre-booked as such and with one exception I always kept the same cabin. Now for some people I’m certain this would be a somewhat tedious curriculum…  much less with Carnival.  But I always had the best suite available and I’m one that is content to sit out on my balcony and watch the waves go by.  My cruising needs are very basic…  just plunk me on a boat in the southern lattitudes and I am a happy camper for sure!   Seriously though…  I have since gone on to bigger and better things to satisfy my addiction to cruising…  HAL… Princess…  RCL… and Crystal.  But I will always have fond memories of my little mini turnarounds with Carnival out of Southern California! By the way I loved Chris Detje’s previous postings and one liners concerning his turnarounds with the Navy.  Being an ex-Marine (enlisted) I knew what he meant about the Captain thing.  I enjoyed Chris’s wit and humor… Any how…  hope this input keeps you motivated. Bill

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Yea Bill, the wife wants to go back to back so I guess we will, haven’t decided to stay with same ship or jump on another one. Carnival Sensation did have good food I thought better than Norwegian Sky. She wants to board the Carnival Paradise 7 day Western Caribbean than when that is over go South.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jeff…  That is how I started cruising several years ago when I retired.  I started off taking Carnival’s little three day weekender out of Southern California then staying on for their four day gig during the week.  They also run a seven day tour that I have turned into a fourteen day session a couple of times.  Needless to say… all these turnarounds were pre-booked as such and with one exception I always kept the same cabin. Now for some people I’m certain this would be a somewhat tedious curriculum…  much less with Carnival.  But I always had the best suite available and I’m one that is content to sit out on my balcony and watch the waves go by.  My cruising needs are very basic…  just plunk me on a boat in the southern lattitudes and I am a happy camper for sure!   Seriously though…  I have since gone on to bigger and better things to satisfy my addiction to cruising…  HAL… Princess…  RCL… and Crystal.  But I will always have fond memories of my little mini turnarounds with Carnival out of Southern California! By the way I loved Chris Detje’s previous postings and one liners concerning his turnarounds with the Navy.  Being an ex-Marine (enlisted) I knew what he meant about the Captain thing.  I enjoyed Chris’s wit and humor… Any how…  hope this input keeps you motivated. Bill

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Glad to see the Navy still has the same sense of humor that it always has had. "Now in my time" I did a 6 month cruise, yarded for 3 months, 2 months reftra things, then a 11 month cruise.  By todays standards a lifetime. Seriously, Chris, best of luck, God speed and following seas to you and all in the service. DocJohn MCPO, USN, Retired

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been in the navy for 13 years now. I have done 3 six month cruises, same bed, same meals, same people. Does that count? — Chris www.detje.com www.msfcpoa.com Has anyone ever took a 7 day cruise than got off at deportation and got back on to go another direction ( 7 day ) I have done back to back 7 day cruises. Never left the ship, kept same dining and cabin. Hank

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oh, yeah, chris, them captains meeting could lead to some great rations for the next 3 days. DocJohnB MCPO, USN, Retired

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and, like on cruise ships, the MidRats, were pretty good DocJohnB MCPO, USN, Retired

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