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Drinking water, seltzer and mineral water is a lot like eating chicken soup when you have a cold. It won’t hurt and it will probably help. My only objection to water is that fish make love in it. LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, by definition a calorie (lower case) in the energy it takes to heat 1 mililiter of water 1 degree Celcius, but what you read on nutrition labels are actually kilocalories – the amount of energy it takes to heat a liter of water 1 degree Celcius. Calories burnt in this way is relatively insignificant. Look at it a different way, though. If you drink 4 cans of soda, each with 150 calories, every day, and you switch to diet soda, or even better yet- water, you eliminate 600 cals/day from your diet. this can add up to a pound of fat a week. I don’t think it is accurate to say you will lose a pound/week as it is to say that is a pound you WON’T GAIN. I DID see an article someone posted last week linking drinking a lot of water to preventing the formation of fat. Although I realize it is very important to drink a lot of fluid, I’m a bit skeptical about it actually preventing fat formation. AL posting from remarq beause deja sucks today Someone told me that if you drink a lot of no-cal drinks, it is an easy way to assist in losing weight. It goes like this: Since you are drinking for example Diet-Coke, which has no calories, the act of digesting the beverage burns calories. The more you drink, the more calories are burnt. In addition, the effort of walking to the bathroom also take up calories. She postulated that just by doing this, you can lose about 10 lbs. a year. Does this make sense or is it hogwash? Thanks, Gary Before you buy. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Don’t know about the diet drinks, but drinking a lot of water certainly helps. Water cleanses your system and takes water out of the fat tissues. It is really good for your overall health as well to drink lots of water. 
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This makes as much since as chewing ice cubes. The idea behind this is ice freezes at 32 degrees F. and the body is 98.6 and the calories used to warm the stomach add up. Don’t know if this works but you hear a lot of ideas. I also heard that it takes more calories to eat celeary than you take in. What works for some doesn’t for others. Mike W – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Since you are drinking for example Diet-Coke, which has no calories, the act of digesting the beverage burns calories. The more you drink, the more calories are burnt. In addition, the effort of walking to the bathroom also take up calories. She postulated that just by doing this, you can lose about 10 lbs. a year. Does this make sense or is it hogwash?
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Hi Claudia, Thanxs for the infos, it’s reaaly interesting and I’ve learn a lot. I do have a question, how much water is too much!?? I’m drinking about 6liter of water per day, about 192oz. Is it too much!?? Thanxxxxs alot! Annie 160/136/125 Atkins since february 2000
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well, I WAS thirsty – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Drinking water, seltzer and mineral water is a lot like eating chicken soup when you have a cold. It won’t hurt and it will probably help. My only objection to water is that fish make love in it. LOL OK, by definition a calorie (lower case) in the energy it takes to heat 1 mililiter of water 1 degree Celcius, but what you read on nutrition labels are actually kilocalories – the amount of energy it takes to heat a liter of water 1 degree Celcius. Calories burnt in this way is relatively insignificant. Look at it a different way, though. If you drink 4 cans of soda, each with 150 calories, every day, and you switch to diet soda, or even better yet- water, you eliminate 600 cals/day from your diet. this can add up to a pound of fat a week. I don’t think it is accurate to say you will lose a pound/week as it is to say that is a pound you WON’T GAIN. I DID see an article someone posted last week linking drinking a lot of water to preventing the formation of fat. Although I realize it is very important to drink a lot of fluid, I’m a bit skeptical about it actually preventing fat formation. AL posting from remarq beause deja sucks today Someone told me that if you drink a lot of no-cal drinks, it is an easy way to assist in losing weight. It goes like this: Since you are drinking for example Diet-Coke, which has no calories, the act of digesting the beverage burns calories. The more you drink, the more calories are burnt. In addition, the effort of walking to the bathroom also take up calories. She postulated that just by doing this, you can lose about 10 lbs. a year. Does this make sense or is it hogwash? Thanks, Gary Before you buy. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free! — ****** Diva
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The AMA put out research in Oct 99 that showed drinking diet soda adds 1/2 lb per can each week. Water is the beverage of choice, the more you drink the faster you lose. They also stated to take your weight cut in half and subtract 10 from it and this is the amount of water youshould drink per day in ounces. If you drink more it will help you lose even faster.
Do you have a cite for that study? I wasn’t able to find anything on the AMA website, and the info sounds rather dubious. I have seen studies in the past that indicate that in some people, the sweetness of the artificial sweetners can fool the body into releasing insulin as though it were sugar, with the attendant problems that would bring. I’ve never seen anything that tied a highly specific weight gain (and a half pound a week per can is a lot) to consumption of diet soda. I could be wrong of course, if so I’d like to read the study.
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This makes as much since as chewing ice cubes. The idea behind this is ice freezes at 32 degrees F. and the body is 98.6 and the calories used to warm the stomach add up. Don’t know if this works but you hear a lot of ideas. I also heard that it takes more calories to eat celeary than you take in. What works for some doesn’t for others.
Eating ice burns more calories than drinking cold water. Besides raising the water from freezing point to body temp, there is the "latent heat of fusion" which is energy applied to cause the phase change from solid to liquid. It still isn’t all that much. Drinking a liter of ice-cold water burns about 40 kcals, eating the equivalent amount of ice is … well … I figured it out once (usta be physicist) but I don’t have the info anymore. It should be noted that chewing ice is not good for the teeth.
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You’ll have to get rid of the "proven" here Claudia. Dawna pointed out earlier this week that the proven is redundant since a fact must be proven by definition. =) It took a spammer to make me realise. =) Jacqueline Sometimes there needs to be more chlorine thrown into the gene pool.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Most of us don’t drink enough water. This is a proven fact.
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It is pretty much hog wash. However, drinking water can help you lose weight because your body needs water as a part of the process. From my website: Most of us don’t drink enough water. This is a proven fact. And by the time you feel thirsty, you are already too late to adequately hydrate yourself. Water is such a simple food. Most everyone has access to it. It is very inexpensive, unless it comes from a tiny steam in France, and with out it almost all life on earth would die. In fact, the human body will die from dehydration much quicker then from starvation. Water is the universal solvent. Given enough time it can erode the hardest metals. Every life form on earth needs some water. Even in the deep dessert, water is a precious commodity. In fact. so much so that animals and plants have evolved to have internal storage systems so that what water they come in contact with can be used as efficiently as possible. The body’s need for water is second in importance only to it’s need for oxygen. Adult body weight is approximately 55 to 65% water, with infants’ body weight comprising as much as 70% water. A 10% loss of body water poses a significant health risk; a 20% loss may result in death. The importance of water in the body should be considered in terms of osmotic pressure relationships, (maintaining the same amount of pressure within cells as outside of cells, should this become unbalanced, cells would implode or explode), as an acid-base balance, as a mechanism for the movement of nutrients into cells and the removal of waste from cells, and as a solution holding the electrolytes. Briefly, electrolytes are salts that allow the transport of electrical currents. Sodium and chloride are found primarily in blood and the noncellular body fluids (lymphatic fluid, etc.). Potassium is the major electrolyte within cells. Water is the medium for all body fluids, including blood, lymph, the digestive juices, urine and perspiration. If you are a sedentary person, your body loses 48 -64 ounces of water day in perspiration,urine and feces, and to allow the normal metabolism and optimal removal of waste products. If you exercise or are active, you require even more water. You should drink at least twice as much water as it takes to quench your thirst. If you drink coffee or tea, which are diuretics, they will increase your needs for water even more. Since water is an important part of blood volume, with out enough water, our blood sugar and blood pressure rises. Too little water, and body fat deposits increase. That means that cholesterol and other fatty deposits on artery walls, organs etc can be lowered and lessened if there is enough water to allow our bodies waste removal system to carry these deposits out side of our bodies. That is why your kydneys will be harmed and unable to function properly with out enough water. Plus, when they don’t function right, what they can’t handle is passed to your liver to deal with and your liver wasn’t meant to be used that way. Your liver has many functions, one of which is to metabolize the fat you have stored in to fuel for your body. When your liver must do part of the work your kydneys should do, it can’t provide enough energy for the rest of your body to function at the optimum level. If you are dieting, metabolizing those fat stores is essential to get rid of the excess. Water also is a natural suppressant for your appetite. In fact, liquids often make you feel more full then solids do. There was a study done for a new popular diet comparing the appetite satiation effect of salads vs. soup. In the study, people were given vegetables in the form of salad and then with liquid added to make them into soups. They then indicated which made them feel more full and satisfied. The results clearly showed that when mixed with a liquid, the vegetables produced a much greater appetite satisfier. So the more overweight you are, the more your body needs water both for fat metabolizing and appitite control.. Water is essential in your bodies waste evacuation system. It mixes with the food during digestion and helps to keep the digested food traveling through your intestinal tract at the right consistency, This way, the nutrients can be extracted and moved to your cells. It also is essential in supplying enough liquid that can be processed by the kydneys and then passed, mixed with wastes, out of your body, When this is out of whack, you are either constipated or experience diarrhea. Neither one is at all pleasant.And both present health risks and influence the amount of nutrients your cells receive and the amount of waste that is processed out of your body. If you are losing weight, your body has more waste in the form of metabolized fat that needs to be processed out of your body. There are many roles water plays in your body. Besides adding blood volume, assisting in digestion and evacuation of wastes, it also helps to keep your skin hydrated. People who drastically increase there water consumption report marked differences in the tone and texture of their skin. Moisturizers are great but if your body is getting the necessary internal hydration, moisturizers will not be effective. Water is necessary for the natural ability of your muscles to extend and contract. With out water you would not have any muscle tone. It also helps to lubricate your joints so that tendons, muscles and joints are work well together to allow you to move about, lift, carry and perform simple to complex physical activity. Too little water can actually cause fluid retention. Your body is designed to protect you as much as possible from all sorts of threats to your body’s survival. When it senses that you are not getting enough water for more then just a very short time, it takes measures to hold on to every drop. Water not immediately needed, which would ordinarily be simply flushed out of your system, is stored in the outside walls of cells. This is what causes swollen feet, ankles, legs, etc.. Water retention can also be a symptom of other health conditions, such as poor venous return, and high blood sugar. So you should have it checked out with your doctor, but as part of the treatment, you need to drink as much water as possible. Diuretics, a common testament for water retention may not the best treatment for anything other then a temporary situation. They will flush the water from those cell walls, but this actually can trigger your body to think it is getting even less water and will replace it as soon as possible. And even with diuretics, a regime of healthy water drinking can make the difference. Your body uses water as it’s cooling system. Through perspiration and evaporation, it helps to maintain your body’s core temperature. It is water and necessary fat stores that stops your body from freezing when it is cold outside and from burning up when it is hot outside. During hot weather your body evaporates as much as it can to cool you off. Just like fluid levels are important in your car, they are important to your body. Water helps keep those levels in perfect sync with one another. Just like low break fluid can cripple your cars ability to stop, so can improper fluid level balance cripple functions in your body. You may find yourself gaining weight unexpectedly and have that "not quite right feeling". You might find yourself stiffer after exercise or exertion and your skin may feel tighter and itchy. And since water is essential in keeping your electrolytes in balance, you might have trouble controlling your motor responses, tasting food, mood swings and numerous other unpleasant and possibly life threatening results. Your sense of thirst is important. but it probably isn’t a true sense of thirst. When your body is forced to function with less water than it needs, you feel thirty all the time. This begins to get to be a normal feeling and so you ignore the signal. Once your body has enough water on a regular basis, it will stop the constant thirst signal and you will then know true thirst. Your thirst will be normal instead of a constant cry for more water. So, how much should you drink? The experts say a minimum of 8-8oz. glasses a day. But that is the minimum. Remember, your body loses that much just through normal sedentary activity. If you are very physically active, so that your body is losing eight through excessive perspiration, you need more. If you are losing weight, you need more. Some even say that you should drink the minimum 64 ounces, plus 8 ounces for every 25 pounds over weight you are. Interestingly enough, just like a lack of water can kill you, so can too much. However, it is almost impossible to actually drink that much water. So it is not a real concern. Just something to be aware of should a naysayer alert you to a fake "water kills" scare. So the next time you reach for that cup of coffee or cuppa of tea, instead reach for water, nature’s natural refresher. Your body will thank you. — claudia Private Weight Loss Consultant and Author 615/377/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today: http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com For hundreds of free low-fat recipes and info visit Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Someone told me that if you drink a lot of no-cal drinks, it is an easy way to assist in losing weight. It goes like this: Since you are drinking for example Diet-Coke, which has no calories, the act of digesting the beverage burns calories. The more you drink, the more calories are burnt. In addition, the effort of walking to the bathroom also take up calories. She postulated that just by doing this, you can lose about 10 lbs. a year. Does this make sense or is it hogwash? Thanks, Gary
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OK, by definition a calorie (lower case) in the energy it takes to heat 1 mililiter of water 1 degree Celcius, but what you read on nutrition labels are actually kilocalories – the amount of energy it takes to heat a liter of water 1 degree Celcius. Calories burnt in this way is relatively insignificant. Look at it a different way, though. If you drink 4 cans of soda, each with 150 calories, every day, and you switch to diet soda, or even better yet- water, you eliminate 600 cals/day from your diet. this can add up to a pound of fat a week. I don’t think it is accurate to say you will lose a pound/week as it is to say that is a pound you WON’T GAIN. I DID see an article someone posted last week linking drinking a lot of water to preventing the formation of fat. Although I realize it is very important to drink a lot of fluid, I’m a bit skeptical about it actually preventing fat formation. AL posting from remarq beause deja sucks today – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Someone told me that if you drink a lot of no-cal drinks, it is an easy way to assist in losing weight. It goes like this: Since you are drinking for example Diet-Coke, which has no calories, the act of digesting the beverage burns calories. The more you drink, the more calories are burnt. In addition, the effort of walking to the bathroom also take up calories. She postulated that just by doing this, you can lose about 10 lbs. a year. Does this make sense or is it hogwash? Thanks, Gary Before you buy.
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Someone told me that if you drink a lot of no-cal drinks, it is an easy way to assist in losing weight. It goes like this: Since you are drinking for example Diet-Coke, which has no calories, the act of digesting the beverage burns calories. The more you drink, the more calories are burnt. In addition, the effort of walking to the bathroom also take up calories. She postulated that just by doing this, you can lose about 10 lbs. a year. Does this make sense or is it hogwash? Thanks, Gary Before you buy.
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Not at ll. I am not exactly sure how much is too much, but it is almost impossible to actually drink that much. It is more of a concern with patients on IV fluids that get out of control. So don’t worry. Six liters is perfectly OK. — claudia Private Weight Loss Consultant and Author 615/377/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today: http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com For hundreds of free low-fat recipes and info visit Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Claudia, Thanxs for the infos, it’s reaaly interesting and I’ve learn a lot. I do have a question, how much water is too much!?? I’m drinking about 6liter of water per day, about 192oz. Is it too much!?? Thanxxxxs alot! Annie 160/136/125 Atkins since february 2000
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The idea of negative cals is fraudulent because the cals used to measure energy out pout and the cals in food are different. Food is actually killocals. I think I am going to put an article up debunking this. I have quite alot of info on the whole thing and am getting tired of writing it over and over. (Not a complaint, just a statement of fact.) Then there will be a URL to cite for more info. — claudia Private Weight Loss Consultant and Author 615/377/157 To email me remove the potatoes Tipletter Writer for Dieting CyberTip4theDay Subscribe today: http://www.CyberTip4theDay.com For hundreds of free low-fat recipes and info visit Claudia’s Corner http://dietchef.ecorp.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This makes as much since as chewing ice cubes. The idea behind this is ice freezes at 32 degrees F. and the body is 98.6 and the calories used to warm the stomach add up. Don’t know if this works but you hear a lot of ideas. I also heard that it takes more calories to eat celeary than you take in. What works for some doesn’t for others. Mike W Since you are drinking for example Diet-Coke, which has no calories, the act of digesting the beverage burns calories. The more you drink, the more calories are burnt. In addition, the effort of walking to the bathroom also take up calories. She postulated that just by doing this, you can lose about 10 lbs. a year. Does this make sense or is it hogwash?
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The AMA put out research in Oct 99 that showed drinking diet soda adds 1/2 lb per can each week. Water is the beverage of choice, the more you drink the faster you lose. They also stated to take your weight cut in half and subtract 10 from it and this is the amount of water youshould drink per day in ounces. If you drink more it will help you lose even faster. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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